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Old Saturday 21st August 2010, 22:41   #1101
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Ooooo - the depth is dizzying. Love it - don't go plugging any machinery in, right?
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Old Sunday 22nd August 2010, 01:30   #1102
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You are BRILLIANT!

I love this Shrike!!!
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Old Sunday 22nd August 2010, 12:45   #1103
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And right in the center of the page, where it should never be. And yet it works just perfectly there. Heed what Tim says about the machinery though.
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Old Sunday 22nd August 2010, 16:23   #1104
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Well rules are fine training devices then they are made to be broken...Richard Schmid one of the best of our generations, often makes paintings that go against what SOP is supposed to be for the sheer challenge of making it work, like this one does.
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Old Sunday 22nd August 2010, 21:33   #1105
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And right in the center of the page, where it should never be. And yet it works just perfectly there. Heed what Tim says about the machinery though.
no violent choppin or a changin this time, just a bit of fiddling with the veg., hopefully for the better but actually I'm not sure: might take some of the newly addded smaller branches to the left of the bird away again or tone 'em down

as for placement, the one thing I did try and do was to place him slightly above centre as these chaps inhabit the 6' to 8' zone- so to look at them you should be peering up ever so slightly as hopefully you are here
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Old Monday 23rd August 2010, 00:58   #1106
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cant decide, but maybe would like a few harder edges in the leaves..
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Old Monday 23rd August 2010, 01:40   #1107
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Centering the subject?

A Master can make it work by using it to point to everything else in the piece.

You have done this so successfully, my eyes are spinning in their sockets!

But also the centre reflects the whole. No coincidence it evolved that plumage!
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Old Monday 23rd August 2010, 21:01   #1108
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Supremely done Ed, broken rules and all!! mind you the one thing I've learnt is that there are no rules really to Art , Superb piece
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Old Tuesday 24th August 2010, 19:44   #1109
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as for placement, the one thing I did try and do was to place him slightly above centre as these chaps inhabit the 6' to 8' zone- so to look at them you should be peering up ever so slightly as hopefully you are here
I think that's exactly the case Ed, peering ever so slightly up.

I'm not sure everyone understood my 'center' comment, which I guess is just part of the problem of e-dialog. People don't know if you're being literal or humorous. I really don't begin to care about rules of art and have never followed any. I meant it as a humorous compliment that you broke a supposed rule and that made the painting all the more successful.
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Old Tuesday 24th August 2010, 20:46   #1110
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the problem of e-dialog. People don't know if you're being literal or humorous.
take it easy old bean- either or both would work here

I'm too old or stubborn (nearly as old as Wootton) to master emoticons

on the literal side re centralism and rules there's a study to be done on how often Jonsson places birds centrally, not because he is a rampant rule breaker I think, but because on one way of looking at his work he is more a portraitist than a landscaper

there's a fascinating little step in his early development when he moved from doings styled in the way of the great lord Brusewitz (fencelines, roads, natural features organised to point or lead to offset birds) to more centrally placed birds radiating their inner calm (often stationary or resting) [he did do that ferociously complex but subtle egret thing based on a renaisisance pic- but more generally..]
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Old Tuesday 24th August 2010, 21:08   #1111
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I am always in awe when I look through these threads..and feel there isnt much I can offer to the converstaion... beautiful beautiful work..

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Old Tuesday 24th August 2010, 21:41   #1112
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I'm too old or stubborn (nearly as old as Wootton) ..]
B100dy 'ell Ed - I had no idea you were that old!!!
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ah yes the egret thing...completely awesome work....Lijefors said he painted portraits, not just animals too.
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Old Thursday 26th August 2010, 08:57   #1114
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hello all

round at Keeble senior's yesterday evening where a Long-tailed Duck on a mirror, looking rather fetching in mobile phone pic I thought
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Old Thursday 26th August 2010, 09:19   #1115
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round at Keeble senior's yesterday evening where a Long-tailed Duck on a mirror, looking rather fetching in mobile phone pic I thought
Very fetching indeed Ed.....needless to say 'i like'...

ps...mobile phone pix now...? Who in their right mind would start doin that...?!! ..[chuckle]....!

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Old Thursday 26th August 2010, 11:55   #1116
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Oooh (or to requote yourself back from previously) ooooooh oo aaaaahhh. Another gem from Pop.
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Old Thursday 26th August 2010, 14:33   #1117
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In addition to previous voices, I'm finding that the shrike has something really neat going on with the feeling of a lens warping around the edges - it makes the centrality of the composition feel right, and intentional.
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Old Thursday 26th August 2010, 14:38   #1118
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the shrike just zings life and "look at me" attention-seeking - exactly how I would hope to see such a beautiful bird. There is nothing better than long-tailed ducks, can we see more of this one???
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Old Saturday 28th August 2010, 17:06   #1119
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There is nothing better than long-tailed ducks, can we see more of this one???
hello there- here's the boy

plus I caught Keeble senior using some utter pornography as a reference, which I have confiscated
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Old Saturday 28th August 2010, 21:50   #1121
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indeed! though I must confess to having the exact same rag stashed away in a titillating folder somewhere.
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Old Sunday 29th August 2010, 09:38   #1122
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lovely work Ed and Ed senior
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Very nice work in your thread, Ed! Looking forward to more.
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I can only say ,that i like it.

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Old Sunday 5th September 2010, 21:29   #1125
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hello all: here's current work in progress, trying to catch my favourite little Green Sandpiper pond in a slightly more controlled painting style

there's 7 Green Sand planned to go in, drawn waaay too big in the initial mapping out-but when re-sized might go for 2 in the in the water and 5 camped out on the bank, the band of 7 all constellated in the shape of plough as pic #2
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