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Old Sunday 23rd June 2019, 06:28   #1
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Ultravid/Uvplus 10x32

Could you tell me how you feel about yours please?

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Old Sunday 23rd June 2019, 14:53   #2
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Andy,

I do love mine. The UVHD+ is the smallest, but not lightest, of the 4 alpha 10x32s. Also without double checking I think it has the smallest FOV but not by much (347' vs 360' for the SW and Zeiss) and not really noticeable in actual use. Classic beautiful Leica UV view. The one downside is ER. When occasionally used with close fitting sunglasses, it loses @ 25% of the FOV so probably not suitable for one who normally uses bins with glasses. Glad to provide further input if you are interested.

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Old Sunday 23rd June 2019, 16:00   #3
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Thank you. You're the second person who has written "beautiful Leica view". And I don't wear glasses (yet).
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Old Sunday 23rd June 2019, 21:04   #4
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The HD+ 10x32 is my everyday bino, small, lightweight, and really lovely if its eye ergonomics work for you. FOV is 352' (117m), nearly as good as the previous Trinovid BN (360/120) which we still have. In comparison, the HD+ brings out subtle details better; for some reason I've noticed this more in viewing striations of rock faces than in birds which exhibit more contrast and color anyway.
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Old Monday 24th June 2019, 10:04   #5
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Thanks, very reassuring comments.
I made an impulse online purchase and have been a little concerned buying them sight-unseen, despite loving the UV+7x42 & having looked through other 10x30/32.
Now particularly looking forward to mine arriving tomorrow.

(edited to say they are shop-new HD+, so I shouldn't be feeling angsty)

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Old Monday 24th June 2019, 13:20   #6
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Ah, then let us make assurance doubly sure. Based on the fact you love your UV+ 7s and have at least looked through some 10x30/32's you will probably love your newest Leica glass as well. This forum and a friend of mine finally got me to invest in some 7s including the UV+. The 10x32 is my favorite overall format but the 7x42 is closing fast. And, again based on postings here, I agree that if people like a 10x32, then a 7x42 is in many ways a better compliment to the 10 than an 8 based on the greater difference in magnification and the increased DOF of the 7 over the 8. Please let us know what you think of your 10x32 once you have a chance to evaluate.

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Old Tuesday 25th June 2019, 20:04   #7
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That Leica view , enough to say immediately that they're keepers.
Not sure if my sister will be able to use them however (I got two pair) as she wears glasses. I was slightly concerned about holding light 10x bins but with good technique they're fine.
And now, pleasure in fitting the strap.
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Old Wednesday 26th June 2019, 15:37   #8
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Hello,
I really like mine , but as with all things in this world , they are not absolutely perfect in every way.
My example has a too easily moved diopter adjustment wheel , it works well with no backlash , but feels very loose to me , otherwise the binocular is just about perfect in every way.
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Old Wednesday 26th June 2019, 21:56   #9
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Hello and welcome 42za,

My diopter knob also moves very easily or lightly, once unlocked; it has no click stops like Swarovski. But it works of course, and the lock is firm and allows no play. I think it's meant to work like that, and isn't a problem. Enjoy yours.
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Old Thursday 27th June 2019, 10:56   #10
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I agree, tenex, the focussing wheels move easily and are fine though feel lighter than the 7x42 UV+; but maybe that is partly due to the lesser mass being moved?
Also as expected, I find the 10x requires more exact focussing than 7x.
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Old Friday 28th June 2019, 10:15   #11
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Hello and welcome 42za,

My diopter knob also moves very easily or lightly, once unlocked; it has no click stops like Swarovski. But it works of course, and the lock is firm and allows no play. I think it's meant to work like that, and isn't a problem. Enjoy yours.
Hello Tenex , thanks for the reply.
Yes the easily moved diopter adjustment wheel does not affect the performance in any way , but I unfortunately expect better engineering from Leica when you take their price into account.
The binocular however IS a superior product , no arguments from me about this.
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Hello Tenex , thanks for the reply.
Yes the easily moved diopter adjustment wheel does not affect the performance in any way , but I unfortunately expect better engineering from Leica when you take their price into account.
The binocular however IS a superior product , no arguments from me about this.
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Isn't the diopter adjustment wheel integrated with the focus wheel in the 32mm Ultravids.

Pull it out to set it and push it back in to lock it.

I wasn't aware that there were any problems with it.

Now, if it were on the right eye piece like on their lower cost Trinovids I could see something like that happening.

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Isn't the diopter adjustment wheel integrated with the focus wheel in the 32mm Ultravids.

Pull it out to set it and push it back in to lock it.

I wasn't aware that there were any problems with it.

Now, if it were on the right eye piece like on their lower cost Trinovids I could see something like that happening.

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No there are no problems as such , and yes the diopter adjustment wheel is integrated with the focus wheel.
BUT the diopter adjustment wheel feels sloppy and cheap on my example.
I think that Leica has cut corners on the engineering of the diopter adjustment wheel , it does just not feel well engineered and with the premium price that Leica charge for their binocular it detracts mightily from their product and is not acceptable to me , seeing the price that they sell these for.

Sorry for the negative comments , but this is how it is for me , otherwise the Leica binocular is a stellar product.

I mean if 30 and 40 year old Japanese binoculars could get this right Leica should be able to follow suite not so.

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Old Saturday 29th June 2019, 00:45   #14
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I mean if 30 and 40 year old Japanese binoculars could get this right Leica should be able to follow suite not so.
This argument is absurd. 30-40 year old Japanese binoculars didn't even have internal focusing, much less integrated diopter knobs. There is no problem here.

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Old Saturday 29th June 2019, 08:44   #15
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True, there is no problem...and I have two pairs to test. They require a lighter touch only.
My 10x44 Steiner Discovery focussing gives the most resistence, then Inpro 9x63, then 40year old Nikon 9x30 then ultravid 7x42 and lightest the 10x32.
None are a problem, it's a personal preference.

Sister also finds the focus fine, never even commented which means it was taken for granted. Unfortunately she wears glasses dawn to dusk.
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Old Saturday 29th June 2019, 11:41   #16
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Leica has had the diopter integrated with the focus wheel on their binoculars since 1993 when they introduced the Trinovid BA series.

https://www.allbinos.com/1677-Leica_...fications.html

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Old Sunday 30th June 2019, 07:33   #17
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Checked out the dioptre adjuster on Troubadoris's Ultravid HD 8x32. It pulls up nicely, there is about 1mm free play of rotation before any adjustment begins. This would drive me nuts if it was the focus wheel but on a dioptre adjuster it doesn't concern me. The adjuster rotates correctly in that its own axis is the same as its drive shaft: it is not bent over to one side, it doesn't wobble, it locks securely and doesn't pop up accidentally.

In short I can't see any lack of engineering integrity in this unit.

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