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Hybrid Grey Goose - Kingston Seymour - 15.04.17 (1 Viewer)
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Paul Chapman
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Pinkfoot x Whitefront??
Paul Chapman
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Many thanks. That is the suggestion that I have seen for this bird at another site where it has been seen so that may well be the answer. I just wasn't convinced that it would explain the predominant wing pattern (and we have several other apparently Bar-headed Goose influenced birds around).
All the best
Joern Lehmhus
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Thanks Paul for your PM .
This is really an interesting bird and I think there are bar-headed goose genes in this bird. I have seen similar crosses Barheaded x Greater whitefront with similar wing and body pattern and coloration , only the bare part coloration differed.
I am not sure if there isn´t a third species involved?
You metioned other photos somewhere else...Can you provide links to other photos ? I´d be very happy to see a closeup photograph of that one!
Best regards, Jörn
This is really an interesting bird and I think there are bar-headed goose genes in this bird. I have seen similar crosses Barheaded x Greater whitefront with similar wing and body pattern and coloration , only the bare part coloration differed.
I am not sure if there isn´t a third species involved?
You metioned other photos somewhere else...Can you provide links to other photos ? I´d be very happy to see a closeup photograph of that one!
Best regards, Jörn
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Paul Chapman
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Joern
Photo from a nearby site a week or so ago here:-
http://avonbirding.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/14-4-18-saturday-warblers.html?m=1
All the best
Photo from a nearby site a week or so ago here:-
http://avonbirding.blogspot.co.uk/2018/04/14-4-18-saturday-warblers.html?m=1
All the best
Joern Lehmhus
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Hello Paul, yes this definitely has Barheaded goose blood, the long and broad tertials and greater coverts indicate this, as well as the black nail. But if assuming Greater whitefront is the other parent, why then pinkish legs(one should expect orange legs in this cross, as both parents have orange legs)
There are also some presumed greylag x greater whitefront crosses with pinkish legs, but I am not sure if this is any help in explaining that bird
stevethehydra
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Could it be Bar-headed x Pink-footed?
screaming piha
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A Greylag with some domestic influence could explain the white forehead.
stevethehydra
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The white on the face is likely to come from the Bar-headed parent, as in this Bar-headed x Swan Goose: http://birdhybrids.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/swan-goose-x-bar-headed-goose.html so I don't think another parent with white markings is needed. There is a family of Bar-headed x Greater White-fronted geese in St James's Park in London (F1 and backcrosses to Bar-headed) which I have seen a few times and they have orange/yellowish bill and legs similar to pure Bar-headed, so it would make sense for the other parent of this to be a goose with pink bill and legs.
Joern Lehmhus
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agree that the white is from the barheaded parent. I cannot say if pinkfoot is the other parent or not. There are no other pinkfooted goose hybrids to compare with.
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