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CARERY
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It very much sounds like a Hume's Leaf Warbler to me. Not a regulare species in Iran I suppose but there have been records in the Gulf region - as you can see on the Xeno-Canto map (https://www.xeno-canto.org/species/Phylloscopus-humei)...
Is it a recent recording?
Is it a recent recording?
Shahrzad
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recently
I thank you so much for your comment. Yes, it was the recent recording. As you mentioned Hume's Leaf Warbler is not regular in Iran.
My first guess is Wagtail ?!?!?!
I thank you so much for your comment. Yes, it was the recent recording. As you mentioned Hume's Leaf Warbler is not regular in Iran.
My first guess is Wagtail ?!?!?!
rollingthunder
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I have only heard one Hume’s, a UK bird, and it sounded just like that. I have heard loads of YB’s and the difference to my ears is distinct FWIW:t:
Laurie -
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Simon Wates
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One more for Hume's - I'd say that would be acceptable as an official record 
CARERY
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There is a certain call of White Wagtail that sounds very similar, I know. I was wondering about that too. It just sounds better for Hume's Warbler to my ears. It would possibly help to know the circumstances like habitat etc... if it was heard from trees or bushes it is more likely to be a Hume's Warbler.
Shahrzad
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Right
Yes , that's right the voice sounds the same Hume's leaf Warbler, so I asked my friend who recorded this sound for the situation.
She said it was on the roof and she heard the voice.
Yes , that's right the voice sounds the same Hume's leaf Warbler, so I asked my friend who recorded this sound for the situation.
She said it was on the roof and she heard the voice.
Simon Wates
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Well yes! ..... wondering if there are trees overhanging or nearby the roof?
Personally, alba wagtail's calls just don't have the subtle Yellow-browed feeling that a Hume's does. If it turns out to be a wagtail, I've learned something.
Jean FRANCOIS
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For my ear, White Wagtail.
Call too long for a Leaf Warbler.
Jean
Call too long for a Leaf Warbler.
Jean
CARERY
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One thing for sure: It's not just simply too long for a Hume's call!
This call puzzles me so I browsed xeno-canto to find calls from White Wagtail (WW) and Hume's Leaf Warbler (HLW) that match the OP call. I compiled a file with three HLW, the mystery call from Iran and then three WW calls. Just listen how similar they can sound. Still to me HLW sounds like a slightly better fit. As you can see in the spectrogram HLW and these WW calls are next to identical in length. It's a pity that the quality of the recording isn't good enough to really work with. The frequency range of WW calls seems to be larger but one needs to be cautious when analysing such low quality recording (no offence)...
In the end I wouldn't like to decide what it is. Anyway, a very instructive call...
This call puzzles me so I browsed xeno-canto to find calls from White Wagtail (WW) and Hume's Leaf Warbler (HLW) that match the OP call. I compiled a file with three HLW, the mystery call from Iran and then three WW calls. Just listen how similar they can sound. Still to me HLW sounds like a slightly better fit. As you can see in the spectrogram HLW and these WW calls are next to identical in length. It's a pity that the quality of the recording isn't good enough to really work with. The frequency range of WW calls seems to be larger but one needs to be cautious when analysing such low quality recording (no offence)...
In the end I wouldn't like to decide what it is. Anyway, a very instructive call...
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rollingthunder
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If it was on a rooftop then even if no picture i presume it would have been seen and if a Wagtail it would be obvious - if it is a Wagtail then it’s a ‘good one’...
Laurie:t:
Laurie:t:
Simon Wates
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Nice one Roland, now I'm much less certain - very instructive indeed :t:
I'd still like to know if the bird was heard calling on the roof or from the roof area and if there are trees/vegetation around it. If it was actually on the roof it has to be WW.
CARERY
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I have to come back to this. By chance a friend just sent me a recording of a White Wagtail that was sitting on a roof (in Eastern Germany) and was calling the attached call going on for minutes. He only recorded it via smartphone, hence a rather poor recording. I compiled the OP call (first call) and the call of the WW and made a spectrogram. Just the same, don't you think...
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Simon Wates
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I have to agree, well done!
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