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Old Friday 21st July 2017, 22:54   #26
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Oh, and it doesn't matter how old you are! Perhaps if the majority of your customers are middle aged men, you should design your website to cater to that clientele ��
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Old Friday 21st July 2017, 23:14   #27
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Nice to see I am not the only Luddite here.
Some very good points made that need to be assessed by the new designers. We don't want pretty we want the simple functional, user friendly style of the old Forum.
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Old Friday 21st July 2017, 23:38   #28
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I don't suppose this is the right place to post this but what is the general consensus on the new Birdguides set up.
Personally I really don't like it, It is not as easy to see what is about without having to scroll through lots of info.
The car club I belong to opted to go to a similar format as this new one but had to revert to a system similar to their old one because the new one was so user unfriendly and members gave up using it!!

Bloody hell, but it's clunky.

They won't be getting a renewed sub from me. I jacked a few years ago, but their site was user-friendly. This one is a mess.

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Old Friday 21st July 2017, 23:42   #29
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Nice to see I am not the only Luddite here.
Some very good points made that need to be assessed by the new designers. We don't want pretty we want the simple functional, user friendly style of the old Forum.
If it ain't bust don't fix it!!!
I bailed out of Birdguides a few years ago, but I've since signed on to RBA. I use RBA for detail, but I still clicked on to Birdguides for general info, because their site was so easy and logical. Well designed in fact.

It looks as if they've 'improved' it so that RBA seems the simpler and more logical site, even though RBA is still clunky. It'll save me clicking onto BG in future.

Massive own goal.

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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 00:18   #30
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Also whats very annoying is that for some reason can't log on to it on chrome (firefox is fine) hopefully a temporary glitch.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 00:36   #31
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My Birdguides subscription expired 2 years ago. I only went on it because the list of sightings was easy on the eye.
For those here that subscribe, were you asked your views about the new format or has it just happened?
If I was a subscriber I'd be wanting my money back. The new format (even with the free 30 day trial) is horrid!!
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 08:57   #32
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I'm a subscriber and the new format just happened..i'm not at all impressed with it.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 09:17   #33
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I know I have to give it time, but I don't like it. I don't go on there to have large tho nice photos nor adverts smashed into my view - I simply want sightings with detail - that is what I have paid for, for over ten years.

Its also much harder to read on my phone, and inconveniently you have to scroll down a lot to find the sightings. The script is less obvious and clear visually on a small mobile phone screen.

So not user friendly, I just want a large screen with sightings, nothing else.

I may look at switching services come renewal time. Of course I may like it by then, but sorry this is a backward development for me, and an unwanted one.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 09:21   #34
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It's not just appearances. The search function has significantly less functionality. Searching by month was very useful, but that has gone.
The web designers are just thinking about impressing a future employer with a magazine like web page, and are uninterested in user experience.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 09:27   #35
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In addition I used to be able to search for 'warbler' to pick up all birds with that term, but now that has been banned.
And the filter has to be turned on every time i want to use it.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 09:58   #36
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Also the sightings page now doesn't give the exact location unless you're a paid subscriber...
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 10:16   #37
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How dare they change the look of something I've never paid for!
As a non-subscriber, I'll now cancel my non-subscription and rely on BF (which I also don't pay for).

But seriously - I get the fact that the look isn't to everyone's taste - for me it's because it screams commercial interest. As a left-winger with strong green tendencies, I prefer my birding to reflect my politics, so the fewer the links to rampant capitalism the better. The planet's being destroyed by the mega-greed of multinational commercialism, which is exactly what this new site seems to promote.

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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 10:27   #38
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The trick is to look at the ticker across the top here: http://www.birdforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=468

then pick a bird and ask for more details on the forum, free and easy to use, and trust me someone will have all the details.

in all seriousness we may have a free advanced system in place on BF in the early autumn.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 10:36   #39
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Agreed....... liked old system esp the app..... very neat. If not broke, why fix it? (And new site is now broke)......
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 10:51   #40
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 12:02   #41
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Still no reply to either email sent (one on Thursday, one on Friday). Tried a different browser (Firefox instead of Vivaldi) to change password - still no luck.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 12:48   #42
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Well, I suppose I should add my comments - don't like the new format, wasn't asked for input & did not see a need to change the old system!
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 15:23   #43
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I think the happiest people will be RBA, with lots of new subscribers..............
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 15:24   #44
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I like the new Android app as the gallery has gone and there are notifications in Android (although currently you have to setup sending a email to yourself for each bird you want a notification about so you get both). They are going to improve this implementation shortly apparently.

I agree the news of the website is very hard to read from a mobile phone without using the app.

From their website for those that cant see it:-
SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Saturday 22 July 2017

We are aware of the problems with our service at the moment and currently have our technical team working on a fix. Please accept our apologies for the disruption to your service, but we aim to have this resolved as quickly as possible.

Please follow this link for more information as well as a guide to assist you in activating your account ... https://www.birdguides.com/informati...er-information
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 15:30   #45
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I'm a new RBA app subscriber as of an hour ago.....
Got a reply via twitter apologising for lack of contact. I'd emailed Birdguides following links on the pages I was trying to change password on, but it appears that neither of these were the email addresses I should've used. Sounds like there's a bit of a back-log that they are working through, which is what I thought was likely the case. Frustratingly, I have potentially missed out on a Hoopoe (lifer for me) today that I might've managed to persuade my pal to go for (Scottish tick for her) had I known about it last night/this morning, but which I will now need it to stay another day or two (know where it is now from RBA app).
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 17:44   #46
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Bird news is all about the apps for me, and much less so the websites.

I defected to the RBA app from Birdguides for the cleaner, succinct iOS notifications, which are so on point I can go days or even weeks without even needing/wanting to leave the lock screen or go further in-app, never mind on the website.

The look of the old Birdguides app made it feel like a relict of the iOS5/6 eras, whereas the new version looks and feels iOS11 ready. I like it! If the notifications are as uncluttered and clear as RBA, I'll be switching back from the 'dark side' (��) when my current RBA subscription ends.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 18:37   #47
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I'm not that bothered about the new design, for me the most useful feature with the old App was getting push notifications you can set as I dont want to be checking the site all the time.. So far I can't work out if this is still the case, there is no mention of such a vital feature. . If not then I'm afraid it's off to RBA.
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I'm not that bothered about the new design, for me the most useful feature with the old App was getting push notifications you can set as I dont want to be checking the site all the time.. So far I can't work out if this is still the case, there is no mention of such a vital feature. . If not then I'm afraid it's off to RBA.
On the iOS app when first installed, there is an app request for the user to authorise notifications. Haven't received any yet though, so presumably not functional as yet.
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On the iOS app when first installed, there is an app request for the user to authorise notifications. Haven't received any yet though, so presumably not functional as yet.
Afraid this texts/emails/push notifications is just not clearly explained at all. How do you just get push notifications and not texts.
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Old Saturday 22nd July 2017, 20:41   #50
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I've asked on Twitter about IOS app notifications and they say you have to set them up on the website as email alerts and then they should come through as notifications. The problem is that you have to duplicate all your filter settings to get the same notifications and also receive them to email whether you want that or not. Also, on the old system you could have several different filters set up on your app and then switch them on or off depending on where you were - that doesn't look possible now.

This is a massive step backwards. I hope they sort it, but why get in this mess in the first place?
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