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Old Thursday 9th November 2006, 11:45   #76
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That mode still seems to try to focus on closer objects and more distant ones are out of focus.
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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 00:24   #77
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These 2 photos are the sharpest and clearest among the all I took from P4 +ED82 (I got them just 1 month), birds were around 1X M away. For me as a beginner, pictures in such quality are beautiful, pleased me and my family very much already. But, I am still unhappy with the sharpness particularly on the feather which is quite soft. I think P4 will get a much better picture if it was used alone.

Anyway, I will try Neil's suggestion to use "mountain" focus mode, Avan's way a 3X plastic map viewer (US$4) good fit to the screen of P4 was bought and Brain's PS.

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Old Friday 10th November 2006, 05:38   #78
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Do you think if I adjust the appertures to smaller to obtain deeper depth-of-field can impove it ?
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Old Saturday 11th November 2006, 00:37   #79
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The quality of light makes a big difference to feather detail over distance. For best results stick to 7-10 meters for small birds. These photos were taken at about 20 meters in slightly hazy but bright light. If the bird is moving you are unlikely to get sharp photos at the magnifications that we use. Don't expect to get sharp photos of feeding wagtails or waders. Neil.

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Old Saturday 11th November 2006, 14:04   #80
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The quality of light makes a big difference to feather detail over distance. For best results stick to 7-10 meters for small birds. These photos were taken at about 20 meters in slightly hazy but bright light. If the bird is moving you are unlikely to get sharp photos at the magnifications that we use. Don't expect to get sharp photos of feeding wagtails or waders. Neil.

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The attached shot was taken in the rain at Olympic Park Wetlands in Sydney Australia at a distance of 20-30 metres. As Neil states it is very difficult to get feeding waders in bad light conditions

Nikon 8400 with Swarovski ATS 80HD, 30x eyepiece and fixed DCA
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Old Saturday 11th November 2006, 22:34   #81
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Bob,
Nice one despite the conditions ( I had 7 days straight of sunshine when I was last in Sydney). The advantage of low light with black and white birds is that you get get more feather detail while holding detail in the white areas. Now if you had used the Fuji F30 you would have been able to use iso 800 and freeze the action. It's nice to have in the bag for days like this. Neil.
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Old Monday 13th November 2006, 00:29   #82
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I think I have progressed a bit on the skills. Last Saturday I took these 3 pictures I am quite happy with the sharpness. What mainly remedied was I used a 3X map-magnifier to see the DC display screen which gave the focuing more precise. So, P4 is a good camera in digiscoping I will keep practicing more and more.

I would like to thank all here for sharing your valuable experience on settings of various cameras and shooting skills. As a new birder, you saved me a lot of wrong roads.
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Old Monday 13th November 2006, 13:42   #83
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Ray,

Keep up with the practice, as with any new hobby it takes time to develop your skills. Unfortunately in Hong Kong we also have to fight with the polluted skies. In Australia, for example, even on wet days it is possible to obtain sharp shots.

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Old Monday 13th November 2006, 13:49   #84
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You may have overdone the glue you used to get that one to sit still Bob.
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Old Tuesday 14th November 2006, 05:09   #85
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Ray,

Keep up with the practice, as with any new hobby it takes time to develop your skills. Unfortunately in Hong Kong we also have to fight with the polluted skies. In Australia, for example, even on wet days it is possible to obtain sharp shots.

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Absolutely the effect I prayed long. Beautiful portrait !!

Yes, even though born here, Hong Kong is always misty I hate. The only way to get closer and closer I am looking these outfits :

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And this guy got a big big full frame with the help of an army camp :
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Few more photos and thanks to those egrets patiently stayed to let me practice hours long.
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Old Tuesday 14th November 2006, 05:11   #86
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You may have overdone the glue you used to get that one to sit still Bob.

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Old Tuesday 14th November 2006, 09:58   #87
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nice pics ray and we have the same nikon scope and you are opening up my mind to rethink about this camera as i was planning to buy the P4 last time for digiscoping ...
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nice pics ray and we have the same nikon scope and you are opening up my mind to rethink about this camera as i was planning to buy the P4 last time for digiscoping ...
If I were you I would stay to get more information from the users over internet of using other DC on ED82. P4 I am still not very confident to get fully satisfied pictures. Unfortunately, there are too few users over internet talk about ED82 connected with non-nikon DC. I am quite interested to know the quality of Fuji F30 if it is coupled with Nikon ED82. Japaness has more to use ED82 + E7900, pictures of this set are very shape and impressive taken by this kingfisher lover :
http://wbpohya.exblog.jp/pg/blog.asp...A27%3A59%2E000

I would say the set Nikon scope ED82 + FSB-4 + P series is painless save you time to get around finding the adaptor and DC but you need time to get know of its pros and cons.
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Old Wednesday 15th November 2006, 10:35   #89
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yeah i agreed ray. i've been searching through the forum about the P4 especially combining it with the nikon scope. even with different scopes, it is still produced soft images (someone told me the ccd size is small) ...

and u can PM lachlustre, he's using the F39 together with the nikon ED82.

hope to see more pictures from you ray :o
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Old Monday 20th November 2006, 14:20   #90
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I experiment with the AF system in the P series. Usualy the setting are the flower symbol for the 4500 and 990., So this is the setting I use in the P1 with mitiged result to date (some very good to unacceptable). Recently I try the AF mode in the menu (AF in top of the menu), this setting are slower but seem to give sharper result.
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Old Monday 27th November 2006, 04:25   #91
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Have these pictures taken by P4 the day before yeaterday (cloudy). I used Marco (flower), what do you grade ? My comment is still a bit blur.
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Have these pictures taken by P4 the day before yeaterday (cloudy). I used Marco (flower), what do you grade ? My comment is still a bit blur.
What sort of range were these taken at?

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Old Monday 27th November 2006, 08:59   #93
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The P4 is certainly capable of much sharper. The attached shots show a one to one crop (800x600) of an original taken at the weekend (f4.9, 1/161s, 13mm, ISO50) and the final tweaked shot. The main drawback with this frame was the noise introduced because I was underexposing.

My main reason for unsharp shots now is the point of focus not being accurate.
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My main reason for unsharp shots now is the point of focus not being accurate.
Could you expand on that Brian?

I've pretty much given up on the P4 for the moment and have gone back to my Coolpix 4200. It may be time to have another go with the P4 soon maybe.
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Could you expand on that Brian?
See the attached pic (only resized - no sharpening). The pebbles behind the bird are sharp but the bird is not. This is either something to do with my eye when I set the focus on the scope or it could be the camera finding the background but it happens quite a bit. When it happens it is always just behind the subject that appears sharply focussed.
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Old Monday 27th November 2006, 11:55   #96
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What sort of range were these taken at?

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Ranges are printed on the photos (bottom) you may see them clearer after enlarged.
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Hi Ray,

I'm probably being a bit dense! All I can see on each of the photos is aperture and shutter speed and a measurement in mm (ranging from 7.5mm to 26.3mm) which I assumed to be the zoom position on the lens. How does this relate to how far away the birds were? I was looking for something in 'metres' or 'yards'.

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I'm probably being a bit dense! All I can see on each of the photos is aperture and shutter speed and a measurement in mm (ranging from 7.5mm to 26.3mm) which I assumed to be the zoom position on the lens. How does this relate to how far away the birds were? I was looking for something in 'metres' or 'yards'.

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Oh sorry Westi. Those birds are about 50 M away, exactly how far for each one I have forgotten.
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Yesterday I photographed this very co-operative Ural Owl with both my P4 and my old Nikon Coolpix 4200. The 2 pics below were the best from both cameras.

The 4200 had the standard Coolpix settings as recommended by Andy (with the 4500 in mind but the shooting menus are largely the same). The P4 was on A mode, fixed apperture off, white balance on auto and image sharpening on high. It was on AF (macro and the "mountain" icon one were tried too but the AF was the best). Both were at minimum zoom.

Forgive me but these numbers don't mean as much to me as I think they should: Shutter speed was 1/15 on the 4200 (1/7 on the P4), ISO was 79 on the 4200 (50 on the P4) and the aperture/focal readings were about the same (f2.8/7.80 on the 4200 and F3.2/8.50 on the P4).

The 4200 is on the left, the P4 is on the right. Both are completely unedited except reducing file sizes. I think the 4200 is better. I took about a hundred shots on both camera with various permutations and these were the best from each.
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