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Old Tuesday 14th April 2020, 08:07   #1
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Warbler Id from Pakistan

Can it be a Long billed reed warbler?
Location: Lunghlake, Larakana, Sindh, Pakistan
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Habitat: trees alongside a lake
March, 2020
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Old Tuesday 14th April 2020, 15:50   #2
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Clamorous Reed-warbler i think.
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Jean Clamarous reed warbler has a much stronger, hook-ish billed with a very long tail.
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Jean Clamarous reed warbler has a much stronger, hook-ish billed with a very long tail.
What else ?
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I saw these images on Facebook but refrained from commenting as I have little knowledge of Large-billed.

I agree this is not Clamorous, which also has a pronounced supercilium and sturdier, lead-grey legs and larger feet.

The bill only looks a little large in the two middle shots, which may be down to the angle or foreshortening. Notice how the tail looks disproportionately short in the second. In the last shot, the proportions look more normal.

For me, the loral bulge, weak supercilium beyond the eye, plain wing with neat feather tracts and short primary projection suggest Blyth's Reed.
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Old Wednesday 15th April 2020, 16:09   #6
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Well I have no experience at all with Large-billed, but FWIW, the 2005 Ripley Guide for South Asia by Rasmussen and Anderton says about Large-billed, "most similar to Blyths' Reed, but bill longer and broader with entirely pale swollen lower mandible". But they only knew it from one specimen...

This bird definitely doesn't have a completely pale lower mandible so if that is actually a good fieldmark then that would rule out large-billed. But some photos on OBC of purported Large-billed show partially dark lower mandibles, so maybe it isn't actually a good fieldmark.
http://orientalbirdimages.org/search...mage_ID=139654
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This article from the forktail journal 2010 is helpful info about Large-billed.
https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...ed-Warbler.pdf
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Thank you Seth, thank you all!
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