Swarovski Price Increase January 1st, 2014 (1 Viewer)

NDhunter · Dec 27, 2013

james holdsworth said:
If the ''sub''-alpha's sold out at current pricing, then we would see higher prices but, I suspect, they have trouble selling at that price point.

Something that sells well commands higher prices, something that doesn't gets cut or slashed. Swaro knows it can sell SVs at these higher prices, it knows its market segment. The market rules such things.

James:

You are starting to sound like Jan. The market does determine the price,
and there are many things that go into pricing every thing we buy every day.

Some lines juggle volume vs. price. Witness Zeiss, the HT is premium
and no discounting there, as it looks like they will sell all of those
handmade models they can, Mike has told us that.
The other models will be priced to market, and Zeiss has been enjoying
having the best midrange value with the new Conqeust HD. I suspect
they are selling well, and they should.

Swarovski does not sell all alphas, it seems the CL models sell well, and also the new compacts are generating a lot of sales and the lower priced models help pay a lot of the bills.

The higher models will command a premium, and so it goes.

Jerry

denco@comcast.n · Dec 27, 2013

mooreorless said:
I can tell you never shot a rifle.

Does a BB gun count?

denco@comcast.n · Dec 27, 2013

BruceH said:
OK .........

From The Kingfisher review that I mentioned above:

"Woke up this morning and thought I would use my new SLC..and then discovers that one half is completely fogged up - on the inside! Now, about 45 minutes after the discovery, the foggy thing still has not completely disappeared. My copy of the new Swarovski SLC does not seem to be particularly waterproof"...

http://www.birdforum.net/showpost.php?p=2848340&postcount=246

Does anybody actually believe this means we have heard the last from Dennis.

C'mon that don't count. SLC's are not true Swarovski's. They are MADE by Meopta. Everybody knows that.

denco@comcast.n · Dec 27, 2013

henry link said:
Why do you guys persist with Dennis? Do you expect his behavior to change? The Ignore List is made expressly for the Dennises of the world.

You have to admit I am good at getting everybody out of the woodwork. I even got Henry riled up. What I can figure out is how he can be irritated by what I am saying if he doesn't know what I am saying. Hmmmmmm....

denco@comcast.n · Dec 27, 2013

FrankD said:
Really Dennis? Would you like me to go peruse Amazon and a few other sites to look for a negative review of your binoculars? Bet I can find one in under 5 minutes. No binocular is perfect. Different strokes for different folks. ;

Still waiting!!!!!!

FrankD · Dec 27, 2013

Did you really want me to?

pompadour · Dec 27, 2013

Dennis, I have inside information that other Swarovskis - Swarovisions, and whatever you are thinking of that are not SLC - are made on the Moon and shipped down under a secret China-USA agreement. So do they count as "true" Swarovski? Awaiting your decision.

denco@comcast.n · Dec 27, 2013

pompadour said:
Dennis, I have inside information that other Swarovskis - Swarovisions, and whatever you are thinking of that are not SLC - are made on the Moon and shipped down under a secret China-USA agreement. So do they count as "true" Swarovski? Awaiting your decision.

My point is that Swarovisions and Zeiss HT's, FL's are at a higher quality level than Meopta's and I don't consider Meopta's alpha's. Meopta's are a good glass but not alpha. Meopta's are not equal to a Swarovision or Zeiss HT and they never will be. Point taken?

pompadour · Dec 27, 2013

Point *seen*, but... This (your post before) is the first I heard of such a connection. "Made" to what extent is relevant. My point is that one can exclude anything if one looks for reasons to do so! Also, that the make named *never will be* equal to the others in quality is just not right. It already is, or soon can be, in optical quality, and depending on market demand could be in build quality. And then there'll be discussions like this on its price increases...

jan van daalen · Dec 27, 2013

pompadour said:
Dennis, I have inside information that other Swarovskis - Swarovisions, and whatever you are thinking of that are not SLC - are made on the Moon and shipped down under a secret China-USA agreement. So do they count as "true" Swarovski? Awaiting your decision.

Pomp,

I think it goes much further.
A few weeks ago I sold a SLC to a guy who was in need for a bin to see the UFO's. I thought that when he couldn't see them with a SLC no bin will.
He brought the bin back one week later because he could not discover UFO's with the SLC.(true story)
Now I understand why.
All bins made by Meopta don't show UFO's.
Dennis reveilled the ultimate "Made By" test.

Jan

Troubador · Dec 27, 2013

pompadour said:
Dennis, I have inside information that other Swarovskis - Swarovisions, and whatever you are thinking of that are not SLC - are made on the Moon and shipped down under a secret China-USA agreement. So do they count as "true" Swarovski? Awaiting your decision.

Pomp

This agreement is not very secret as the factory is on the bright side of the moon and can be easily seen by anyone with a Zeiss HT.

The really secret factory is on the dark side of the moon and the products are shipped down under an even more secret North Korea - USA agreement. Even with HTs you can't see this factory although you will with the next generation HTs that will be able to see around corners due to a new version of the T* coating code-named 'Cross-eyed'.

As Dennis says, everyone knows this :-O

Lee

Odradek · Dec 27, 2013

[email protected] said:
C'mon that don't count. SLC's are not true Swarovski's. They are MADE by Meopta. Everybody knows that.

Is that true? Any source for this?

pompadour · Dec 27, 2013

jan van daalen said:
... I think it goes much further ... All bins made by Meopta don't show UFO's ...

Jan, it goes even further: all bins *supposed to be* made by Meopta don't show UFOs. |:S|

jan van daalen said:
... I thought that when he couldn't see them with a SLC no bin will[ show them] ...

Lee, are you letting that go? If you do I'll have to seriously doubt those claims about HTs in your last post. |

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Meanwhile, Swarovski prices... |8.|

Troubador · Dec 27, 2013

pompadour said:
Jan, it goes even further: all bins *supposed to be* made by Meopta don't show UFOs. |:S|

Lee, are you letting that go? If you do I'll have to seriously doubt those claims about HTs in your last post. ||

Meanwhile, Swarovski prices... |8.|

Pomp

Jan's post was prior to mine, he is still stunned by my news about HTs superiority and hasn't yet decided how to respond.

Perhaps he is consulting his lovely wife, Anne.

Lee

CSG · Dec 27, 2013

This is what happens to forums without a little, reasonable moderation.

What a freakin' waste.

jan van daalen · Dec 27, 2013

CSG said:
This is what happens to forums without a little, reasonable moderation.

What a freakin' waste.

CSG,

Could not agree more. Every reasonable moderator would censor Lee's contribution to this post:king::king:

Thanks for the support.

Jan

perterra · Dec 27, 2013

CSG said:
This is what happens to forums without a little, reasonable moderation.

What a freakin' waste.

Dont take it so seriously, people just having some fun. When you sit in the bar with friends this kinda stuff happens, it's part of the act of communicating.

pompadour · Dec 27, 2013

CSG, sorry to irritate. I'm all for tight, economical writing where very appropriate, but here I think Perterra's comment is spot on B

, and I'm sure you'll agree this is better than a discussion swinging to the other side of the emotional spectrum, which too, unfortunately, happens here sometimes. Between Lee and me it's a personal feud - he praises the Zeiss Victory HT, a model he owns - so I diss it when I get the chance to address him on it - all in good fun!

jan van daalen · Dec 27, 2013

pompadour said:
CSG, sorry to irritate. I'm all for tight, economical writing where very appropriate, but here I think Perterra's comment is spot on B , and I'm sure you'll agree this is better than a discussion swinging to the other side of the emotional spectrum, which too, unfortunately, happens here sometimes. Between Lee and me it's a personal feud - he praises the Zeiss Victory HT, a model he owns - so I diss it when I get the chance to address him on it - all in good fun!

Pomp,

Please don't stimulate Lee.
I need all the help I can get on this front, since even Anne is on his side :C.

perterra · Dec 27, 2013

jan van daalen said:
Pomp,

Please don't stimulate Lee.
I need all the help I can get on this front, since even Anne is on his side :C.

:-O

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