Green winged teal (1 Viewer)

RonClark28 · May 23, 2004

I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of the green winged teal that's at Brandon Marsh just now. It arrived on 13 May and was still there showing well today from the Carlton Hide.

Ron

Rob Smallwood · May 23, 2004

People too busy looking for the reported Grey Shrike sp. perhaps?!

mountain man · May 23, 2004

Hi Ron. It's still being reported by all the info services every day.

A few people now think that the female teal it has paired up with is also Green winged.

Rob Smallwood · May 23, 2004

A few people now think that the female teal it has paired up with is also Green winged.

Tom,

That would be a great one to prove as I suspect non of us have a female Green-winged on our British Lists!

Bluetail · May 23, 2004

Are there any accepted records of female Green-winged yet?

Michael Frankis · May 23, 2004

Hi Jason,

Bluetail said:
Are there any accepted records of female Green-winged yet?

I'm not aware of any, but the BBRC chucked GWT off the rarities list several years ago, so it isn't easy to find out. I can't think many county recorders would relish the prospect of being the first to accept one, either!

Michael

Bluetail · May 23, 2004

Michael Frankis said:
I'm not aware of any, but the BBRC chucked GWT off the rarities list several years ago, so it isn't easy to find out.

Ach! Of course they did. Silly me!

Reader · May 23, 2004

An apt thread seeing as I thought it time to pop down to my local reserve this afternoon. I had seen a G W Teal a few weeks ago in Northamptonshire but decided to see if I could get any photos of one today. I did manage to get one shot which included the female but it's not a good one. If I had known that there was a possibility that there would be a chance that it was a female G W Teal i would have taken more photos of it. I can tell you that the male was displaying to it if that makes any difference.

Following are a few photos I managed to get. The bird was about 100 yards away on the furthest bank of the 2nd pool from the Carlton Hide.

Bluetail · May 23, 2004

THanks, Reader. I'll pass on the female if you don't mind!

Reader · May 23, 2004

Bluetail said:
THanks, Reader. I'll pass on the female if you don't mind!

Don't blame you Bluetail. Nothing short of a DNA test will sort that one out.

Any volunteers?

RonClark28 · May 24, 2004

Following are a few photos I managed to get. The bird was about 100 yards away on the furthest bank of the 2nd pool from the Carlton Hide.

Now I'm wondering if you are the guy I spoke to one of the t'ther hides yesterday who let me have a look at his C4500 digiscoping set up. Was it you by any chance?

Ron

Reader · May 24, 2004

Could be Ron but you would have known if it was me as I would have been wearing a Birdforum cap.

RonClark28 · May 24, 2004

Reader said:
Could be Ron but you would have known if it was me as I would have been wearing a Birdforum cap.

That settles that then cos we were wearing our BF caps ;-)))

Reader · May 24, 2004

Oh well, hopefully we will meet there some other time.

BTW I was at Brandon between 15:15 & 17:45 on Sunday and most of that time was camped in the Carlton Hide. Got good views of a Cuckoo and managed a few distant shots plus a few half decent shots of a whitethroat that kept on landing on the bushes near to the hide.

bill lord · May 24, 2004

RonClark28 said:
I'm surprised there hasn't been any mention of the green winged teal that's at Brandon Marsh just now. It arrived on 13 May and was still there showing well today from the Carlton Hide.

Ron

Hi Ron

I'm puzzled over this Green winged teal thing, I've looked though all my books and cannot find it but I've seen reports of them over the last few years. I finally thought of Google and it reported the green winged teal as an American bird otherwise known as annus crecca and showed pictures which to me looked very much like a common teal. Then when I looked in Collins to compare, that gives the name of the common teal as annus crecca as well and pictures which were the same as the american version, could sombody please put me out of my misery over this confusion please.

Bluetail · May 25, 2004

Hi Bill. Green-winged Teal used to be just the American race of our Teal, but was "split" as a full species two or three years ago. Whereas our male Teal has a horizontal white stripe along its side, the American male has a vertical one at the front of the flanks (and the cream/yellowish stripes on the head are much fainter too). The females are to all intents and purposes indistinguishable in the field (though not everyone would agree - a paper detailing subtle differences was published a few years ago).

RonClark28 · May 25, 2004

Reader said:
Oh well, hopefully we will meet there some other time.

BTW I was at Brandon between 15:15 & 17:45 on Sunday and most of that time was camped in the Carlton Hide. Got good views of a Cuckoo and managed a few distant shots plus a few half decent shots of a whitethroat that kept on landing on the bushes near to the hide.

We were there much earlier than that, and were actually at home by the time you arrived. We did see the cuckoo from there last Tuesday though, so that is perhaps one of its regualr 'stopping off points'. Jan and I like to sit there in the Carlton hide even if there's no birds to be seen, it's so peaceful and quiet there that we can happily sit there for several hours ... or would do if I didn't keep getting hungry :h?:

Ron

RonClark28 · May 25, 2004

Hi Ron

I'm puzzled over this Green winged teal thing, I've looked though all my books and cannot find it but I've seen reports of them over the last few years. I finally thought of Google and it reported the green winged teal as an American bird otherwise known as annus crecca and showed pictures which to me looked very much like a common teal. Then when I looked in Collins to compare, that gives the name of the common teal as annus crecca as well and pictures which were the same as the american version, could sombody please put me out of my misery over this confusion please.[/QUOTE]

yo Bill ... you've founder so long last :bounce:

I'm please someone has been able to answer your questions, they have given a better version of weather was told on Sunday.

I've got your other e-mail sitting waiting to answer and will do so later today.

Ron

Edward woodwood · May 25, 2004

anyone know why the female is suspected A. crecca carolinensis? Any other reason than it is apparently pairing with the male?

Surely couldn't be a case of ducks hybridising instead......? That would be very unusual

- - Quick, someone knock up a note to BB.

bill lord · May 25, 2004

Bluetail said:
Hi Bill. Green-winged Teal used to be just the American race of our Teal, but was "split" as a full species two or three years ago. Whereas our male Teal has a horizontal white stripe along its side, the American male has a vertical one at the front of the flanks (and the cream/yellowish stripes on the head are much fainter too). The females are to all intents and purposes indistinguishable in the field (though not everyone would agree - a paper detailing subtle differences was published a few years ago).

Thankyou for that, it sorts things out in my mind.

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