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Old Wednesday 16th July 2014, 12:52   #251
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ahh...I thought this was about Northern vs Steller's
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Old Wednesday 16th July 2014, 13:13   #252
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I thought Stellar was the problem, but I see nothing star-like in this particular pinniped.

No sign of my HMW in Hampshire, UK yet, but did get a UPS despatch email today...

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Old Monday 21st July 2014, 21:43   #253
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I thought Stellar was the problem, but I see nothing star-like in this particular pinniped.

No sign of my HMW in Hampshire, UK yet, but did get a UPS despatch email today...

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Vol 4 arrived in Hampshire today. I've only spent ten minutes looking at it but I think this is the best volume so far - OK so the species count is much lower than prior volumes, so there is plenty of space but the photos are stunning (eg a great collection of beaked whales shots), the plates excellent (although the whiskers on the Bearded Seal seem to have been lost against the background!).

I'm not up on Cetacean taxonomy but in a brief check note that Bryde's Whale is (just) one species here whilst (and Morgan won't like this) Boto is three species including the Bolivian (Beni) and the Araguaian.

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It is no surprise that Inia is considered as three species. Inia boliviensis was accepted by the Society for Marine Mammalogy in 2012 and Inia araguaiaensis was recognized as new species in 2014. Only the IUCN is still hasiting to recognize all three botos.
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It is no surprise that Inia is considered as three species. Inia boliviensis was accepted by the Society for Marine Mammalogy in 2012 and Inia araguaiaensis was recognized as new species in 2014. Only the IUCN is still hasiting to recognize all three botos.
The dataset is pretty small for both - I think the Bolivian Boto is described from two female specimens only and araguaiaensis from perhaps only one specimen? Whilst I'd never recommend large scale collection I would have thought larger datasets would have been achievable.

I also note that Ganges and Indus River Dolphin are united as one here but I'm sure that is not a surprise.

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UHHH....yeah there is considerable more evidence I feel for multiple species within Bryde's than three species of Boto. I can buy the Bolivian form as a separate species, but not the new Araguaian. Especially if you are for some reason lumping Indus and Ganges River dolphins.

I assume the taxonomy was decided upon by the different authors who authored different sections.

Man we need a 4th edition of Mammal Species of the World, with a single group of experts assessing mammal species. I was hoping the Handbook might fill that need, but between this and the hoofed mammal volume, that plainly is not going to be the case
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Man we need a 4th edition of Mammal Species of the World, with a single group of experts assessing mammal species. I was hoping the Handbook might fill that need, but between this and the hoofed mammal volume, that plainly is not going to be the case
Perhaps we will get a new checklist of mammals a la new 2 volume BLI checklist with a small group of authors who might then be able to take a consistent approach between the various families..

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Perhaps we will get a new checklist of mammals a la new 2 volume BLI checklist with a small group of authors who might then be able to take a consistent approach between the various families..
HMW 14: 20092014
HMW 58: 20152020?
HMW Illustrated Checklist: 2022+?
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I wonder that the HMW information page does not mention the total number of described species. http://www.lynxeds.com/hmw/handbook-...world-volume-4. So is anyone here who knows how many species are described in HMW 4?
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I wonder that the HMW information page does not mention the total number of described species. http://www.lynxeds.com/hmw/handbook-...world-volume-4. So is anyone here who knows how many species are described in HMW 4?
It seems that there are 147 distribution maps.

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147? My head count yesterday for a research statement for a job application was 130 currently recognized species of marine mammal, although that includes Polar Bear, a couple of lutrines, and some historically extinct species like Sea Mink.

So that means that besides the river dolphin splits, there are a further 15 splits or historically recognized species not currently recognized by the most recent version of the marine mammal checklist I was examining. I'd love it if someone could send me the new list or post it here!
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147? My head count yesterday for a research statement for a job application was 130 currently recognized species of marine mammal, although that includes Polar Bear, a couple of lutrines, and some historically extinct species like Sea Mink!
Fwiw, Shirihai & Jarrett 2006 recognises 126 extant species/allospecies within the families included in HMW 4.
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Are there family distribuition maps in the family sections? Those may count in the headline 147? I can't check at the moment.

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Fwiw, Shirihai & Jarrett 2006 recognises 126 extant species/allospecies within the families included in HMW 4.
hhhmm...that would make sense since I didn't consider family distribution pictures. My count of 130 would have included Sea Mink, Sea Otter, Marine Otter, and Polar Bear. Excluding those would result in 126 species.
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So that means that besides the river dolphin splits, there are a further 15 splits or historically recognized species not currently recognized by the most recent version of the marine mammal checklist I was examining. I'd love it if someone could send me the new list or post it here!
There are many beaked whale taxa which were previously not recognized, e.g. Mesoplodon hotaula
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NHBS published a schedule for the upcoming volumes. So the next volume will be published in 2017

http://www.nhbs.com/search/quick_sea...e=Book&x=0&y=0
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NHBS published a schedule for the upcoming volumes. So the next volume will be published in 2017
http://www.nhbs.com/search/quick_sea...e=Book&x=0&y=0
I was obviously over-optimistic!

HMW 58: nominally 20172023, but most books get delayed...
HMW Illustrated Checklist(?): 2025+...
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Btw I still haven't received mine.
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NHBS published a schedule for the upcoming volumes. So the next volume will be published in 2017

http://www.nhbs.com/search/quick_sea...e=Book&x=0&y=0
2017 seems a long delay especially since we know that in November 2013 Toni Llobet had already illustrated half of the species for the marsupials book.

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I'm a bit disappointed since I live just 350 km from Lynx headquarters
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Finally got my copy today. Splendid indeed.

At first, it looked like it was a bit on the thin side. But comparing it with a HBW volume of also about 600 pages, I realized that Lynx has apparently used thinner paper for the HMW series. HMW Vol 3 that looked about the size of that 600 page HBW volume actually has around 900 pages.

So now, we are in for a long wait? Hope Lynx can speed up the publication schedule. They had managed that in the HBW series too.
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The IUCN already accepted Neomonachus as new genus for the neotropical monk seals.
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The team at HMW is now looking for marsupial photos for the next volume. They are particularly (but not exclusively) after photos of Neotropical species. See the mammalwatching.com weblog page.
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The IUCN already accepted Neomonachus as new genus for the neotropical monk seals.
The IUCN isn't really a taxonomic body though. I know I won't be using Neomonachus in the papers I have in prep right now.
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The IUCN isn't really a taxonomic body though. I know I won't be using Neomonachus in the papers I have in prep right now.
What is the main error of the study which led to erecting of the genus Neomonachus?
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The Neomonachus paper is here:

http://www.pensoft.net/journals/zook...6244/abstract/
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