Acrocephalus
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Common Chaffinch populations (Fringilla coelebs ssp.) (1 Viewer)
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Richard Klim
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Gran Canaria Chaffinch
Although briefly mentioned, the study doesn't seem to have included the undescribed form on Gran Canaria, which Suárez et al 2009 suggested was actually the most clearly differentiated of the Canarian races.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=147425
Richard
Although briefly mentioned, the study doesn't seem to have included the undescribed form on Gran Canaria, which Suárez et al 2009 suggested was actually the most clearly differentiated of the Canarian races.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=147425
Richard
Richard Klim
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Macaronesia
Lachlan, Verzijden, Bernard, Jonker, Koese, Jaarsma, Spoor, Slater & ten Cate (in press). The progressive loss of syntactical structure in bird song along an island colonization chain. Curr Biol. [abstract]
See also:
Lachlan, Verzijden, Bernard, Jonker, Koese, Jaarsma, Spoor, Slater & ten Cate (in press). The progressive loss of syntactical structure in bird song along an island colonization chain. Curr Biol. [abstract]
See also:
- Collinson 2001. Evolution of the Atlantic-island Chaffinches. Brit Birds 94(3): 121–124.
- Canary Islands Chaffinch.
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Nutcracker
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Good article, but . . .
no way! Surely that's got to be Moussier's Redstart?? :bounce:
Allen S. Moore
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I noticed this today, geographically incorrect:
Chaffinches (Fringilla coelebs) on the furthest island of their dispersal, Gran Canaria in the Canary Islands, still sing the same notes, but with a much less structured pattern from one bird to the next, sort of like an island of Charlie Parkers.
Chaffinches also breed further west on Tenerife, La Gomera, El Hierro and La Palma, not to mention the Azores, which are more westerly still.
Richard Klim
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Macaronesia
Perhaps Duke University's Office of News & Communications was confused by the fact that Gran Canaria is the furthest Macaronesian island from North Carolina to be colonised.
Allen S. Moore
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Perhaps Duke University's Office of News & Communications was confused by the fact that Gran Canaria is the furthest Macaronesian island from North Carolina to be colonised.
A perfect explanation, adding, as it does, the fact that NC is short for North Carolina, which I wondered about!
Richard Klim
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Birdwatch
David Callahan, Birdwatch Listcheck, 27 Jan 2015: Atlantic Chaffinch subspecies to be split?
- Collinson 2001. Evolution of the Atlantic-island Chaffinches. Brit Birds 94(3): 121–124. [pdf]
- Suárez et al 2009. Phylogeography and genetic structure of the Canarian common chaffinch (Fringilla coelebs) inferred with mtDNA and microsatellite loci. Mol Phylogenet Evol 53(2): 556–564. [pdf]
- Lachlan et al 2013. The progressive loss of syntactical structure in bird song along an island colonization chain. Curr Biol 23(19): 1896–1901. [pdf]
- Rodrigues et al 2014. Genetic diversity and morphological variation of the common chaffinch Fringilla coelebs in the Azores. J Avian Biol 45(2): 167–178. [pdf]
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Richard Klim
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Richard Klim
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harterti
Svensson 2015. A new North African subspecies of Common Chaffinch Fringilla coelebs. Bull BOC 135(1): 69–76.
Svensson 2015. A new North African subspecies of Common Chaffinch Fringilla coelebs. Bull BOC 135(1): 69–76.
Hello
does anybody of you have a PDF of this paper by Svensson ?
I had submitted a paper to Dutch Birding, an extended and updated version of what I published in Birding Frontiers a while agò, on tail pattern variation of "African Chaffinch" taxa and I get Bull BOC in my home address in Siracusa, Sicily but I am since 3 months in Roma
please, I need this asap if possible and any help will be most welcome
thanks
Andrea Corso
does anybody of you have a PDF of this paper by Svensson ?
I had submitted a paper to Dutch Birding, an extended and updated version of what I published in Birding Frontiers a while agò, on tail pattern variation of "African Chaffinch" taxa and I get Bull BOC in my home address in Siracusa, Sicily but I am since 3 months in Roma
please, I need this asap if possible and any help will be most welcome
thanks
Andrea Corso
Richard Klim
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HWPB subspecific taxonomy
As long anticipated, this suggests that we can look forward to a thorough and authoritative overhaul of WP subspecific taxonomy (with much-needed synonymisation of many clinal subspecies). Hopefully it will be readily adopted by the major world checklists as the new regional subspecific baseline...
Incidentally, Lars comments in the paper that the 75% rule is applied to subspecies distinction in the forthcoming Handbook of Western Palearctic Birds (Shirihai & Svensson in press).
As long anticipated, this suggests that we can look forward to a thorough and authoritative overhaul of WP subspecific taxonomy (with much-needed synonymisation of many clinal subspecies). Hopefully it will be readily adopted by the major world checklists as the new regional subspecific baseline...
in this way I think almost all subspecies , for ex. of N Africa, of Larks, of Rock Sparrow, of Passer sp., of other taxa will be considered synonym as well as some Lanner Falcon subsp. (erlangeri and tanypterus being same taxon) and Peregrine and so on....
However, nobody have the PDF please?
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However, nobody have the PDF please?
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B oo:smoke::smoke:
Given the range, I presume (but don't know) that harterti is similar in appearance and perhaps genetically to spodiogenys? Though, given the surprising genetic results concerning africana, spodiogenys and the position of both relative to coelebs, assumption could be dangerous...
l_raty
laurent raty
Not seen the paper, but Roselaar in Cramp & Perrins 1994 (BWP VIII) wrote:
"Birds from Cyrenaica (northern Libya) have longer bill than those from remainder of North Africa, coulour near africana, but underparts tinged yellow-buff instead of white, and white nape patch large (Stanford 1954); here included in africana following Vaurie (1959), but perhaps separable."
(I'm not sure what you are alluding to about africana and spodiogenys, but note that the results concerning these two taxa have been misrepresented in the birding literature as suggesting that these two taxa differ a lot from one another in mtDNA. In fact, all africana and most spodiogenys have mtDNA very close to that of European birds, while, in a minority of Tunisian birds, a divergent haplotype (which was nicknamed the "Nefza haplotype") has been found. In published analyses, this haplotype appeared more distinct from European haplotypes than Macaronesian haplotypes. But as its distribution does not coincide with a population, it cannot really be used as a taxonomically significant character.)
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Richard Klim
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harterti
Svensson...
In a rather curious (dubious?) arrangement, the isolated N Cyrenaican population has usually (eg, Clement 2010) been included in africana despite being geographically separated from africana sensu stricto by spodiogenys.
Svensson...
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