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Sinoe , Romania, Lark species?

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Old Saturday 22nd June 2019, 08:46   #1
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Sinoe , Romania, Lark species?

Please can anyone help with id of the attached bird photographed?
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Old Saturday 22nd June 2019, 08:53   #2
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I'd say Short-toed?
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Old Saturday 22nd June 2019, 09:16   #3
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Juv Skylark (long primary projection)

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Hi Steve. Is that definite please? Short-toed would be a lifer.
I thought short toed were to be seen in that part of the world, but not so much skylark
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Hi Steve. Is that definite please? Short-toed would be a lifer.
I thought short toed were to be seen in that part of the world, but not so much skylark
I don't know about the distribution of either species in Romania, but I would have expected Skylark to be widely distributed in most of Europe.
Short-toed typically has its primaries almost fully cloaked by its tertials, with just a tiny projection beyond. Your bird is a very close match to the juv Skylark in Collins.

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Old Saturday 22nd June 2019, 12:38   #6
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It's a juvenile Greater Short-toed Lark-note pattern of tertials/coverts, short hind claw, bill structure, buff outer tail feather etc. The tertials are short in juvenile and consequently show a long pp.

see http://blascozumeta.com/wp-content/u...chydactyla.pdf
and http://blascozumeta.com/wp-content/u...-aarvensis.pdf

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It's a juvenile Greater Short-toed Lark-note pattern of tertials/coverts, short hind claw, bill structure, buff outer tail feather etc. The tertials are short in juvenile and consequently show a long pp.

see http://blascozumeta.com/wp-content/u...chydactyla.pdf
and http://blascozumeta.com/wp-content/u...-aarvensis.pdf

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That's useful Grahame. Thanks for the links
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Thats lovely for me too. Thanks for the help everyone and for the links. Especially because Greater short-toed Lark is a lifer for me!
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Would it also be reasonable to say the dark patch on the side of the neck is visible too ?
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Would it also be reasonable to say the dark patch on the side of the neck is visible too ?
If you referring to the dark 'horseshoe' mark just below the eye, that is likely caused by feather separation as its tilting its head revealing darker feather bases-juveniles don't show dark neck patches.

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Old Tuesday 25th June 2019, 15:30   #11
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Thank you for that kind clarification about juveniles.
The mark on the bird that I was (likely erroneously) drawing attention to is another mark, pointed out in this image attached
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