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Old Tuesday 7th April 2015, 22:02   #1
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pied or white wagtail

Having a little problem I think this is a female pied but cant find any overly great pictures of a White wagtail, what are the if any distinctions between the two. Any help and tips always appreciated.

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Old Wednesday 8th April 2015, 03:42   #2
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Looks like a male White Wagtail IMHO.
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Old Wednesday 8th April 2015, 07:36   #3
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Also a White Wagtail for me!

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Old Wednesday 8th April 2015, 10:00   #4
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I agree, an alba, it doesn't look dark enough for yarrellii.
The bib is edged with white (fem?) and is quite deep and pointed (male). The mantle colour is light grey, not dark grey so rules out fem Pied imho. Although the nape/mantel transition cannot be seen so cannot tell if sharp or diffuse (male/female) it is clearly a rapid change of colour, black to grey making this a White Wagtail, again, imho.
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I was trying to work out if the dark grey blotches near the shoulder were lesser coverts showing through the scapulars and shade effect or actual dark feathers in the scapulars and the mantle. It isn't too pale for a 1st summer female Pied IMO.

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OK thank you all for your help and future Id tips as well (Andy/Roy) hope to see more of them on skye and get some better pics to ease identification, thanks again.

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... hope to see more of them on skye ...
Should be plenty of White Wags passing through Skye over the next month or so on migration to Iceland
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