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Problem with mirrorless camera's as compared to compact camera's is the mechanical shutter. It causes the camera to vibrate when using long shutter times, more then about 1/800, but for long total fl's even somewhat higher. The only possibility to prevent that is only digiscope with very good light or use the highest burst mode, which doesn't use - at least in the G-series - the mechanical shutter. But using that mode only the smallest JPEG is available. This 'shutter shake syndrome' is the reason I am going to buy a compact camera, probably a Sony RX100 II and use my Panasonic DMC G3 for other kinds of photography then digiscoping.
 
Problem with mirrorless camera's as compared to compact camera's is the mechanical shutter. It causes the camera to vibrate when using long shutter times, more then about 1/800, but for long total fl's even somewhat higher. The only possibility to prevent that is only digiscope with very good light or use the highest burst mode, which doesn't use - at least in the G-series - the mechanical shutter. But using that mode only the smallest JPEG is available. This 'shutter shake syndrome' is the reason I am going to buy a compact camera, probably a Sony RX100 II and use my Panasonic DMC G3 for other kinds of photography then digiscoping.

The review of the GX7 says you can use either a mechanical or electronic shutter. Perhaps this would solve the problem you had with the G3?

Best,
Jim
 
Yes, this would solve the problem, if everything else, like image quality, is the same (or better). But it is not clear to me from the review if I can shoot RAW using the electronic shutter and not only with the machanical.
 
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Well, a camera that is already out there and has the electronic shutter is the G5. According to this thread in DPReview, (which actually discusses a single case of defective processing in one specific camera) specifically states that the person using the camera has used electronic shutter with both jpg and raw images.

Disadvantage of electronic shutter in some instances is some artifact if parts of the scene is moving.

Niels
 
Yes, this would solve the problem, if everything else, like image quality, is the same (or better). But it is not clear to me from the review if I can shoot RAW using the electronic shutter and not only with the machanical.
You can shoot RAW with electronic shutter, but it in fact makes matter worse because of odd distortions it adds to moving subjects, regardless of shutter speed. I use it extensively - not for birds, but to alleviate motion blur caused by myself, e.g. macro shots with fairly static subjects in low light conditions. From my experience, best for birds is burst - which GX7 is certainly capable of.
 

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Yes, i use a G5 with the Sigma 30mm for Digiscoping. Sometimes you'll get very funny pics with the electronic shutter. But it isn't that bad. Only fast moving Objects will cause that distorsion. I read an article about that. The sensor needs about 1/10 s for readout from top to bottom. So you'll get sharp images line by line with fast shutter speeds but the object will have moved during this period. Only a global shutter could solve this problem (read out the whole sensor in one instance), but we have to wait one or two years....
 
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Old thread, but a reply anyway. I have shot with the G3 without mechanical shutter for 1 1/2 year and use a GX1 now. No problems with the vibration, just shoot on a pillow or hold the hand on the cam and shoot in burst mode. I even have some sharp shots at 1/25 of second.

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