Hawk ID in California....looking for 'Coopometer' :D (1 Viewer)

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Hockey.Lover

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• Apr 2, 2007

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I had another visit from a hawk this morning. I took lots of photos...it was very cooperative. This hawk was much smaller than the other that visited last week.

What I believe is that this is a juvenile male Cooper's Hawk. Please tell me if I am getting this???


Thanks,

Gail

 

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vocalistapd

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• Apr 2, 2007

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not an expert but how does juvenile sharp shinned hawk sound?

 

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Hockey.Lover

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• Apr 2, 2007

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vocalistapd said:

not an expert but how does juvenile sharp shinned hawk sound?

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That seems to be the question. Not sure. Good answer, though.

 

vocalistapd

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• Apr 2, 2007

• #4

could only make an educated guess without actually seeing the birds side by side.coop is a bigger bird altogether great photos well done!

 

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Miedin

Closet Birdwatcher

• Apr 2, 2007

• #5

Cooper's Hawk gets my vote on this one.

 

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Hockey.Lover

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• Apr 2, 2007

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vocalistapd said:

could only make an educated guess without actually seeing the birds side by side.coop is a bigger bird altogether great photos well done!

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Thanks. I went back and tried to find a similar pose by the Coop that visited last week. Here they are....

 

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Gentoo

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• Apr 2, 2007

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Looks like Coopper's to me also. Sharp-Shins are starting to become scarcer in California as spring continues.

 

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cavan wood

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• Apr 2, 2007

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I'm a little confused by this bird. The different lengthed rectices says cooper, but the course streaking and orange iris this time of year suggest sharp-shinned.

Scott

 

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Hockey.Lover

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• Apr 2, 2007

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cavan wood said:

I'm a little confused by this bird. The different lengthed rectices says cooper, but the course streaking and orange iris this time of year suggest sharp-shinned.

Scott

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Me, too. I was not 100% certain about this bird, but gave it my best guess. I wanted to leave it to the real professionals to help me out.

Thanks. I am waiting to post my photos on my site until I have the proper ID.

 

vocalistapd

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• Apr 2, 2007

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Hockey.Lover said:

Thanks. I went back and tried to find a similar pose by the Coop that visited last week. Here they are....

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juvenile coopers lack a pale supercilliary above the eye which juvenile ssh have. a general rule of thumb (for me that is) if it looks similair in size to an american kestrel then it is a sharpie.if not it is a coop.

 

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Terry O'Nolley

Cow-headed Jaybird

• Apr 2, 2007

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The legs appear quite thin and the terminal tail band is dull and rather thin. If I had to guess, I would say Sharpie.

What the HE*L do you put out in your feeders to attract Accips like this? Cute little fluffy chicken hatchlings?

 

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Hockey.Lover

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• Apr 2, 2007

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Terry O'Nolley said:

The legs appear quite thin and the terminal tail band is dull and rather thin. If I had to guess, I would say Sharpie.

What the HE*L do you put out in your feeders to attract Accips like this? Cute little fluffy chicken hatchlings?

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LOL, Terry. No little chickies in my feeders. I am quite surprised myself. I have lived here for just over a year and just this year started putting more feeders out there. I have three seed feeders in the crape myrtle, three suet feeders and two window feeders for the goldfinches and House Finches....oh and peanuts for the squirrels.

I guess I am glad that I didn't go out first thing and fill up the feeders before my coffee today, otherwise my photos would probably been very graphic. :eek!:

 

AlexC

Aves en Los Ángeles

Opus Editor

• Apr 2, 2007

• #13

I'm not totally clear on which bird is which, but they all look like Coops to me.

 

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Hockey.Lover

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• Apr 2, 2007

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AlexC said:

I'm not totally clear on which bird is which, but they all look like Coops to me.

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The first three photos are the same bird. The second set of photos are a comparison of the one from this morning and the one from last week.

Thanks, Alex.

 

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Hockey.Lover

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• Apr 3, 2007

• #15

One last question now that the consensus thinks it is a Cooper's....

Male or female?

Thanks.

 

talon_dfa

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• Apr 3, 2007

• #16

Coop.

Tail (though out of place and/or with broken feathers), appears more rounded than square.

Male - Female?
Measure in relation to top rail on fence.
Is that a "2X2" (1.75 inches)?

Also look at foot size in relation to top rail.
Compare to Adult bird pic.