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2 large gulls from Cyprus (1 Viewer)

SJC

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Photographed a few days ago in Cyprus. They were part of a large flock of mainly Caspian and Armenian Gulls but also a few Yellow-legged, Heuglin's and Baltic. I'm not sure about these two
 

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Not sure about the first two but the last two look like 2cy Armenian gulls with that thick stubby bill & very similar pattern of mantle to GBBG.
 
Thanks Neil. I was thinking along the same lines but the head looks a bit square and the bill a bit too long and pointed for typical Armenian. I can't think of what else it can be though...
 
1 is either a 4cy steppe gull or a hybrid (heuglini x cachinnans - thing), hard to tell. definitely something from central asia, maybe taiga belt of russia west of urals.

2 maybe armenian but i'd have a hard time to exclude a YLG here!
 
Thanks Lou. I was surprised by how many barabensis/eastern cachinnans type there were in the large group (barabensis is not on the Cy list)
 
it seems that barabensis should be put on the list. recently a large number have been ssen in port said, egypt, so they do migrate back through the eastern mediterranen.
 
I was under the impression that Steppe (barabensis) cannot be safely identified from Eastern Caspian in the field
 
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