Hawk ID - 4/20/18 Bolivar Peninsula, Texas, USA (1 Viewer)

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janinmt

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• Apr 26, 2018

• #1

Is this a Red-tailed Hawk? The angle is confusing me!

Thanks,

Jan in MT

 

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gerdwichers8

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• Apr 26, 2018

• #2

I am not fully certain because of the barred primaries which may not have place in Swainson's juv either; will get back to it.

 

gerdwichers8

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• Apr 26, 2018

• #3

a tailless Red-tailed and not a Swainson's Hawk is best of my appreciations for the moment.

 

KC Foggin

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• Apr 26, 2018

• #4

Red-tailed for me as well and I removed your other thread

 

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ceasar

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• Apr 26, 2018

• #5

Swainson's I think. Light morph. Wingtips are longer than tail.

Bob

 

njlarsen

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• Apr 27, 2018

• #6

ceasar said:

Swainson's I think. Light morph. Wingtips are longer than tail.

Bob

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Disagree because there is no tail so you don't know how long it would be.

My initlal thought was Red-tail and I have not seen anything to contradict - though I am willing to be educated.

Niels

 

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birdmeister

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• Apr 27, 2018

• #7

ceasar said:

Swainson's I think. Light morph. Wingtips are longer than tail.

Bob

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Somehow the rather buffy face looks very Swainson's-like to me. I'd lean towards that over Red-tailed.

 

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tom baxter

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• Apr 27, 2018

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birdmeister said:

Somehow the rather buffy face looks very Swainson's-like to me. I'd lean towards that over Red-tailed.

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This was my initial thoughts, does red-tailed ever show that face pattern? It looks fine for Swainson's to me, I probably wouldn't have even considered red-tailed if it wasn't suggested, but maybe thats just because I'm not that great with perched raptors especially away from the EAstern US/

 

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ceasar

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• Apr 27, 2018

• #9

I still think it is a Swainson's . A perched Red-tailed Hawk would have a tail longer than its wing tips.

 

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Kratter

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• Apr 27, 2018

• #10

It has its tail, easily visible below right wing in image 2. Swainson’s is fine, weird angle makes it look more compact.
Andy

 

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janinmt

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• Apr 28, 2018

• #11

Thanks for all your input.

Thanks for all your help. I think it is a Swainson's Hawk, not a Red-tailed Hawk.

Jan in MT

 

gerdwichers8

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• Apr 29, 2018

• #12

This particular bird doesn't show an apparent gape and the iris is a bit darkish. Therewith it appears cute but the head itself is still big compared to the body? as in Eurasian Common Buzzard and Red-tailed Hawk.

The head of Swainson's compares to its body (taken from a lateral view) as unusual small (large wing)