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Old Monday 21st May 2012, 21:56   #1
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Cuckoos of the World

Erritzøe, Mann, Brammer & Fuller 2012. Helm Identification Guides: Cuckoos of the World. Christopher Helm. [Amazon UK]

Taxonomic treatment of Cuculidae:
  • Crotophaginae
    • Guira guira
    • Crotophaga major, ani, sulcirostris

  • Neomorphinae
    • Tapera naevia
    • Dromococcyx phasianellus, pavoninus
    • Morococcyx erythropygus
    • Geococcyx californianus, velox
    • Neomorphus radiolosus, rufipennis, pucheranii, geoffroyi, squamiger

  • Centropodinae
    • Centropus milo, ateralbus, menbeki, chalybeus, unirufus, chlororhynchos, melanops, steerii, rectunguis, celebensis, anselli, leucogaster, senegalensis, monachus, cupreicaudus, superciliosus, nigrorufus, sinensis, goliath, toulou, grillii, viridis, bengalensis, violaceus, bernsteini, phasianinus

  • Couinae
    • Carpococcyx viridis, radiceus, renauldi
    • Coua cristata, verreauxi, caerulea, ruficeps, reynaudii, coquereli, cursor, gigas, delalandei, serriana

  • Cuculinae
    • Rhinorthini
      • Rhinortha chlorophaea
    • Phaenicophaeini
      • Ceuthmochares australis, aereus
      • Taccocua leschenaultii
      • Zanclostomus javanicus
      • Phaenicophaeus pyrrhocephalus
      • Rhopodytes sumatranus, viridirostris, diardi, tristis
      • Rhamphococcyx curvirostris, calyorhynchus
      • Dasylophus superciliosus
      • Lepidogrammus cumingi
      • Clamator coromandus, glandarius, levaillantii, jacobinus
      • Piaya minuta, melanogaster, cayana
      • Coccyzus pumilus, cinereus, melacoryphus, americanus, euleri, minor, ferrugineus, erythropthalmus, lansbergi
      • Hyetornis pluvialis, rufigularis
      • Saurothera vetula, vieilloti, merlini, longirostris
    • Cuculini
      • Pachycoccyx audeberti
      • Microdynamis parva
      • Eudynamys scolopaceus
      • Urodynamis taitensis
      • Scythrops novaehollandiae
      • Chrysococcyx maculatus, xanthorhynchus, caprius, klaas, flavigularis, cupreus, basalis, ruficollis, lucidus, meyerii, minutillus, poecilurus, crassirostris
      • Misocalius osculans
      • Rhamphomantis megarhynchus
      • Cacomantis pallidus, castaneiventris, flabelliformis, sonneratii, merulinus, passerinus, variolosus, sepulcralis
      • Caliechthrus leucolophus
      • Cercococcyx mechowi, olivinus, montanus
      • Surniculus dicruroides, velutinus, lugubris, musschenbroeki
      • Hierococcyx vagans, bocki, sparverioides, varius, hyperythrus, pectoralis, fugax, nisicolor
      • Cuculus clamosus, solitarius, poliocephalus, crassirostris, micropterus, rochii, gularis, saturatus, lepidus, canorus

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Thanks Richard for all the info. An other bird forum post.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=2445152 .
From the Fuller Lab "the"maps.
http://www.fullerlab.org/cuckoos-of-the-world .
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From the Fuller Lab "the"maps.
http://www.fullerlab.org/cuckoos-of-the-world.
Well found, Mark. Great to have these online.
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Well found, Mark. Great to have these online.
Richard,
The map for Cacomantis passerinus appears twice - is this just a duplication, or has another species been overwritten?
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The map for Cacomantis passerinus appears twice - is this just a duplication, or has another species been overwritten?
Mike,
Apart from Cacomantis passerinus(1), all species distribution maps seem to be in alphabetic order, and all Cacomantis spp are present - so presumably it's just a duplication.
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The maps for Surniculus lugubris & S. dicruroides match no other range descriptions for those taxa that I can find. This is not terribly surprising, since no two sources seem to agree on where these taxa occur & how they should be defined (see also previous thread here). The split between these two is a real mess. :/
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Someone with the book, please: What races they have in Rufous-vented Ground Cuckoo Neomorphus geoffroyi and where are their distribution?
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Oh thanks for this summary. It is interesting to see that the Timor Coucal (Centropus phasianinus mui) is still treated as subspecies of C. phasianinus despite the fact that there are several differences between the two taxa.
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Proposal (680) to SACC

Revise the linear sequence of cuckoos (Cuculidae)
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Revise the linear sequence of cuckoos (Cuculidae)
Proposal passed, 22 Jan 2016: Recent changes.
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Kim, Lee, Yoo. 2017. Comparing vocal structures of the parasitic and nonparasitic groups in Cuculinae. Avian Res. 8:27.
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Erritzøe, Mann, Brammer & Fuller 2012. Helm Identification Guides: Cuckoos of the World. Christopher Helm. [Amazon UK]

Taxonomic treatment of Cuculidae:
  • Crotophaginae
    • Guira guira
    • Crotophaga major, ani, sulcirostris

  • Neomorphinae
    • Tapera naevia
    • Dromococcyx phasianellus, pavoninus
    • Morococcyx erythropygus
    • Geococcyx californianus, velox
    • Neomorphus radiolosus, rufipennis, pucheranii, geoffroyi, squamiger

  • Centropodinae
    • Centropus milo, ateralbus, menbeki, chalybeus, unirufus, chlororhynchos, melanops, steerii, rectunguis, celebensis, anselli, leucogaster, senegalensis, monachus, cupreicaudus, superciliosus, nigrorufus, sinensis, goliath, toulou, grillii, viridis, bengalensis, violaceus, bernsteini, phasianinus

  • Couinae
    • Carpococcyx viridis, radiceus, renauldi
    • Coua cristata, verreauxi, caerulea, ruficeps, reynaudii, coquereli, cursor, gigas, delalandei, serriana

  • Cuculinae
    • Rhinorthini
      • Rhinortha chlorophaea
    • Phaenicophaeini
      • Ceuthmochares australis, aereus
      • Taccocua leschenaultii
      • Zanclostomus javanicus
      • Phaenicophaeus pyrrhocephalus
      • Rhopodytes sumatranus, viridirostris, diardi, tristis
      • Rhamphococcyx curvirostris, calyorhynchus
      • Dasylophus superciliosus
      • Lepidogrammus cumingi
      • Clamator coromandus, glandarius, levaillantii, jacobinus
      • Piaya minuta, melanogaster, cayana
      • Coccyzus pumilus, cinereus, melacoryphus, americanus, euleri, minor, ferrugineus, erythropthalmus, lansbergi
      • Hyetornis pluvialis, rufigularis
      • Saurothera vetula, vieilloti, merlini, longirostris
    • Cuculini
      • Pachycoccyx audeberti
      • Microdynamis parva
      • Eudynamys scolopaceus
      • Urodynamis taitensis
      • Scythrops novaehollandiae
      • Chrysococcyx maculatus, xanthorhynchus, caprius, klaas, flavigularis, cupreus, basalis, ruficollis, lucidus, meyerii, minutillus, poecilurus, crassirostris
      • Misocalius osculans
      • Rhamphomantis megarhynchus
      • Cacomantis pallidus, castaneiventris, flabelliformis, sonneratii, merulinus, passerinus, variolosus, sepulcralis
      • Caliechthrus leucolophus
      • Cercococcyx mechowi, olivinus, montanus
      • Surniculus dicruroides, velutinus, lugubris, musschenbroeki
      • Hierococcyx vagans, bocki, sparverioides, varius, hyperythrus, pectoralis, fugax, nisicolor
      • Cuculus clamosus, solitarius, poliocephalus, crassirostris, micropterus, rochii, gularis, saturatus, lepidus, canorus
Is there a phylogenetic analysis in this book?
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Is there a phylogenetic analysis in this book?
No.
There is an extensive preview in Google Books. They followed the (mtDNA-based) results of Sorenson & Payne in Payne 2005 (The Cuckoos. Bird families of the world, OUP).
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There is an extensive preview in Google Books. They followed the (mtDNA-based) results of Sorenson & Payne in Payne 2005 (The Cuckoos. Bird families of the world, OUP).
Is there a way to see the Sorenson & Payne's results?
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There are two generic names attached to members of the arboreal coua group (Coua).

Serisomus Swainson, 1837 (type species = C. cristata)
Glaucococcyx Cabanis & Heine, 1863 (type species = C. caerulea)

Is there any reason to think that either/both of these names are invalid? (Neither is mentioned in Erritzøe et al (2012) and they are both noted as 'status uncertain' on IRMNG... which I realise isn't always the definitive resource!)

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Cuckoos of the world does say "Olivaceiceps previously placed in Sericosomus" Sericosomus is a Sundevall emendation of Serisomus. Which Sharpe used in describing olivaceiceps. Not sure of validity.
OD of Glaucococcyx :
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/...ge/77/mode/1up .
Glaucococcyx. Cabauisin Mus. Hein. IV. 1. 1863 = Glaucomyias, Cabanis in Mus. Heiu. 1. 1850.
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Surely that Sericosomus is an unnecessary emendation of Serisomus ? Anyway, Sericosomus Sundevall, 1857 is a junior homonym of Sericosomus Dejean, 1833 and Sericosomus Stephens, 1839, both Coleoptera, thus Sundevall's name is not valid.

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Serisomus Swainson, 1837 (type species = C. cristata)
Glaucococcyx Cabanis & Heine, 1863 (type species = C. caerulea)

Is there any reason to think that either/both of these names are invalid? ...
I would think so ... see; here and here, both listed as "Syn. Coua ..."

Hopefully of some help.

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Thanks for answers, very helpful and much appreciated. However, I'm still unsure if either name could apply to the arboreal couas, if they were to be separated at the generic level.

I'm not seeing anything so far to demonstrate that either name is invalid, although they do seem to have a convoluted past.

Neither name has to be a synonym of Coua because they were named for species other than Coua gigas (the type species of Coua)... and the amendation Sericosomus (and Glaucomyias for that matter) can presumably be discounted from this specific discussion...

I'll continue to search... thanks!
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Crested, Blue and Verraux's all are arboreal and Serisomus Swainson, 1837 (type species = C. cristata) seems good for those. Not sure if Delalande's was arboreal but in 1854 Bonaparte put it in Serisomus. See page 5 of https://books.google.com/books?id=Tf...isomus&f=false
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I agree with Mark.
I'd also suggest that the 'status uncertain' flags on IRMNG mean nothing more than 'status not verified'. (I.e., they don't imply the existence of an identified problem.)
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Crested, Blue and Verraux's all are arboreal and Serisomus Swainson, 1837 (type species = C. cristata) seems good for those. Not sure if Delalande's was arboreal but in 1854 Bonaparte put it in Serisomus. See page 5 of https://books.google.com/books?id=Tf...isomus&f=false
Thanks for replies. I will continue to use Serisomus.

As for Delalande's Coua, it is included in the comprehensive trees of Payne et al (2005) and placed as sister to Coua serriana, this pair closest in turn to C. gigas - so, embedded well within the terrestrial group.
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Glaucococcyx. Cabanis in Mus. Hein. IV. 1. 1863 = Glaucomyias, Cabanis in Mus. Heiu. 1. 1850.
I'm not sure that Glaucococcyx and Glaucomyias are synonyms. Glaucomyias is, IMHO, a synonym of Eumyias (Muscicapidae)?
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‘As for Delalande's Coua, it is included in the comprehensive trees of Payne et al (2005) and placed as sister to Coua serriana, this pair closest in turn to C. gigas - so, embedded well within the terrestrial group”
After a little research I think that Delalande’s Coua is an aberrant arboreal coua. The arboreal ones eat insects and land mollusks the ground ones eat insects and seeds. Delalande’s eat land mollusks; their native name meaning shell cracker.
https://digital.soas.ac.uk/LOAC00006...2j?search=coua .
This source considers C. serriana and reynaudii as arboreal???
C. delandei was described in Coccycus note the c instead of the z by Temminck. Apparently a misspelling but perhaps Temminck meant to create a new genus. Our dear friend Hans E. Wolters had his own ideas. He placed C. reynaudii and serriana (both Pucheran 1845) in an unnamed subgenus. Wolters put C. caerulea in subgenus Glaucococcyx Cabanis & Heine, this makes sense since although arboreal and land mollusk eating their legs are the length of the terrestrial couas. Wolters put C. verreaauxi and cristata in a subgenus Serisomus.
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After a little research I think that Delalande’s Coua is an aberrant arboreal coua.
I've attached the tree from PAYNE, R., SORENSON, M. & KLITZ K. (2005) The Cuckoos: Cuculidae; Oxford University Press.

I can't say if it's definitive - certainly Verreaux's being closer to Blue than to Crested is unexpected... and note what it says in the legend about C. delalandei with regard to C. serriana/C. gigas. However, the division into a 'mostly-terrestrial' group and a 'mostly-arboreal' group based on genetics, also seems reasonable to me in terms of morphology, taking into account general proportions, overall colouration, crestedness - and also feeding behaviour.

Based on info in Erritzøe et al (2012), Payne et al, and also HBW, all extant couas have rather generalised diets (reptiles, insects, fruit, seeds); only C. delalandei was specialised, eating "large forest snails broken on stone anvils". Furthermore, Erritzøe et al and Payne et al both state that C. delalandei was "terrestrial" - there doesn't seem much to indicate that it was actually related to the arboreal spp.
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