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Old Wednesday 4th April 2012, 18:35   #26
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Hi Justin,

I apologize; I should have been more specific. I was referring only to specimens of extinct birds collected in the Mascarenes in the 18th century that survive in the Paris museum.

I was also incorrect in stating that Sonnerat accompanied Commerson around the world with Bougainville. Actually, Commerson met both Sonnerat and Jossigny on Mauritius, when Commerson landed there with the Bouganiville expedition (on its way home to France) and accepted a commission by the island's governor to study the natural history of the Mascarenes and Madagascar. Sonnerat and Jossigny were assigned to Commerson to draw the specimens he collected.

However, Sonnerat left Mauritius in 1769, a year after Commerson arrived there, and subsequently visited several regions of Asia on his own, including the Philippines, the Moluccas, India, and China. The specimens you mention were probably collected on those trips. He wrote 2 books about his travels, in 1776 and 1782.

Sonnerat gave 2 specimens of Alectroenas nitidissima to the Paris museum, but only one survives today. He described the species (in French) in his 1782 book, but didn't give it a Latin name. Scopoli officially named the species Columba nitidissima in 1786. However, he never actually saw Sonnerat's specimens: he just Latinized Sonnerat's account.

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Joseph, Toon, Schirtzinger, Wright & Schodde 2012. A revised nomenclature and classification for family-group taxa of parrots (Psittaciformes). Zootaxa 3205: 2640.

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A link to the paper is also available here:

http://biology-web.nmsu.edu/twright/publications.html

I wonder if the taxonomy proposed here will be followed by any major taxonomic authorities?
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Schirtzinger et al

Schirtzinger, Tavares, Gonzales, Eberhard, Miyaki, Sanchez, Hernandez, Meller, Graves, Fleischer & Wright (in press). Multiple independent origins of mitochondrial control region duplications in the order Psittaciformes. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]
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Kundu, Jones, Prys-Jones & Groombridge (in press). The evolution of the Indian Ocean parrots (Psittaciformes): extinction, adaptive radiation and eustacy. Mol Phylogenet Evol. [abstract]
Coracopsis (nigra) barklyi listed by IOC as a proposed split.
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Manegold 2013. Two new parrot species (Psittaciformes) from the early Pliocene of Langebaanweg, South Africa, and their palaeoecological implications. Ibis 155(1): 127139. [abstract] [supp info]
  • Agapornis attenboroughi n. sp.
  • Khwenena leopoldinae n. gen. et n. sp.
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Manegold 2013. Two new parrot species (Psittaciformes) from the early Pliocene of Langebaanweg, South Africa, and their palaeoecological implications. Ibis 155(1): 127139. [abstract] [supp info]
Free access to Ibis 155(1) at the moment, including Manegold 2013. [pdf]

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Mol Phylogenet Evol 64(2): 342356. [pdf]
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Zootaxa 3691 (5): 591–596 (24 Jul. 2013)
Higher classification of New World parrots (Psittaciformes; Arinae), with diagnoses of tribes
RICHARD SCHODDE, J. V. REMSEN, JR., ERIN E. SCHIRTZINGER, LEO JOSEPH & TIMOTHY F. WRIGHT

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Higher classification of New World parrots (Psittaciformes; Arinae), with diagnoses of tribes
RICHARD SCHODDE, J. V. REMSEN, JR., ERIN E. SCHIRTZINGER, LEO JOSEPH & TIMOTHY F. WRIGHT
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Proposed classification – already adopted by Dickinson & Remsen 2013 (H&M4)...
  • AMOROPSITTACINI Brereton, 1963: Touit, Psilopsiagon, Bolborhynchus, Nannopsittaca

  • FORPINI Brereton, 1963: Forpus

  • ARINI G.R. Gray, 1840 (1825): Pionites, Deroptyus, Pyrrhura, Enicognathus, Cyanoliseus, Anodorhynchus, Rhynchopsitta, Eupsittula, Conuropsis, Aratinga, Cyanopsitta, Orthopsittaca, Primolius, Ara, Leptosittaca, Ognorhynchus, Guarouba, Diopsittaca, Thectocercus, Psittacara

  • ANDROGLOSSINI Sundevall, 1872: Myiopsitta, Brotogeris, Pionopsitta, Triclaria, Hapalopsittaca, Pyrilia, Pionus, Graydidascalus, Alipiopsitta, Amazona
PS. H&M4 (also IOC, BirdLife) uses the spelling Guaruba...
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Dual original spellings. First Reviser: Lesson see Forshaw (2006) and David et al. (2009).

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Chambers & Worthy 2013. Our evolving view of the kakapo (Strigops habroptilus) and its allies. Notornis 60(3): 197–200. [abstract]

[Presented at the 2013 NZ Bird Conference (Dunedin, 1–2 Jun).]

John Boyd (TiF): www.jboyd.net/Taxo/List12.html#strigopidae.

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Chambers & Worthy 2013. Our evolving view of the kakapo (Strigops habroptilus) and its allies. Notornis 60(3): 197200. [abstract]
BBC News, 12 Sep 2013:

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Proposal (595) to SACC: Revise sequence of genera in the New World parrots

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Proposal (595) to SACC: Revise sequence of genera in the New World parrots

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Thank you Peter,

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Analysis and Recommendation: The proposed new sequence reflects the findings of Chaves et al. (2013) and barring additional tweaks, removes previous misconceptions on relationships in the genus; therefore, I recommend a YES.
Do you happen to know what is "Chaves et al. (2013)" ?
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Do you happen to know what is "Chaves et al. (2013)" ?
Daniel, I think Van has accidentally inherited that text from Proposal #593.
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Daniel, I think Van has accidentally inherited that text from Proposal #593.
Daniel, Richard good catch. Fixed now.
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Daniel, Richard good catch. Fixed now.
Hmm ! this part is still there Peter :

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Hmm ! this part is still there Peter :
The result of adopting a generic approach to proposal writing?
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Yep ! Van calls this the perils of "copy-paste"
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IOC World Bird List: Nov 3 Decline Fig Parrot splits: await full study.
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PS. Next version will evidently be v4.

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IOC World Bird List:PS. Next version will evidently be v4.
Strangely the the PS page says 4.0 but the other update pages say draft 4.1. Don't see the point myself in changing from 3 to 4 unless something really major is going to happen (e.g. radical format change in the lists) otherwise stick with 3.x until a good reason
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Don't see the point myself in changing from 3 to 4 unless something really major is going to happen (e.g. radical format change in the lists) otherwise stick with 3.x until a good reason
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So zero value whatsoever
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