Two Birds I just can't identify! UK (1 Viewer)

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LeedsBird

Member

• Mar 25, 2014

• #1

Hi all, I apologise for the terrible photo quality but just caught these two with my phone when out and about!

The first one was in a patch of woodland near my house in Leeds. It had a black back, white chest and a patch of red at its throat. It was singing away on its own and I didn't see any others like it.

The second one I found singing in a tall hedge in the midlands of Ireland in a cemetery. It was black bird sized and colour, with a bright orange beak but has a totally white head. Again singing away!

Hope someone can help as after consulting all the bird books I'm stumped!
Thanks

 

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RafaelMatias

Unknown member

• Mar 25, 2014

• #2

I'd say Robin and partial albino Blackbird.

 

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LeedsBird

Member

• Mar 25, 2014

• #3

RafaelMatias said:

I'd say Robin and partial albino Blackbird.[/QUOTE

Thanks, after checking out about albino blackbirds I would tend to agree however it definitely wasn't a robin in the first pic, we are inundated with robins here and this was a very bright red patch only under the throat and the rest of the bird was black on top with a black beak.

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ClarkWGriswold

Carpe Carpum

Supporter

• Mar 25, 2014

• #4

Hi LB. I'd go with Robin as well.

Rich

 

chris butterworth

aka The Person Named Above

• Mar 25, 2014

• #5

Another for Robin.

 

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stevethehydra

Well-known member

• Mar 25, 2014

• #6

Robins look very different when viewed from "unusual" angles such as from below, I have photos making the extent of the red look even less than this one. When viewed from above/on the same level you see all the red and don't really see the extent of the whitish underparts...

 

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LeedsBird

Member

• Mar 25, 2014

• #7

I appreciate all your help but my view of the bird was much better than the photo much closer than it would appear and there is absolutely no way it was a robin. We get robins in both our front and back gardens that we watch from the upstairs rooms and down stairs in the trees and on the ground so we must have seen hundreds of robins from all angles! Its song was different from a robins, the colours were much, much different, its beak was different, it wasn't as round as a robin. I just can't seem to find a bird anywhere it fits with.

 

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LeedsBird

Member

• Mar 25, 2014

• #8

The red section was very small, didn't reach up to its eyes was just a very scarlet red underneath its beak and only around its throat section, the white underneath was bright white and its black was as black as a blackbird.

 

birdboybowley

Well-known member.....apparently so ;)

• Mar 25, 2014

• #9

Not sure what else to suggest LB as the bird in the first pic is most definitely a Robin.....

 

Samuel Perfect

Well-known member

• Mar 25, 2014

• #10

RafaelMatias said:

I'd say Robin and partial albino Blackbird.

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Agree.

LB, Robins also have a black beak as you mentioned earlier

 

Jeff Hopkins

Just another...observer

• Mar 25, 2014

• #11

If bright red was really bright red, would you buy into goldfinch viewed at an odd angle?

 

Andy Hurley

Gotta love nature!

Opus Editor

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• Mar 25, 2014

• #12

Jeff hopkins said:

If bright red was really bright red, would you buy into goldfinch viewed at an odd angle?

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I think that the red comes down a lot further than what one would expect on
a Goldfinch, also the tail does not look right.

 

Andy Hurley

Gotta love nature!

Opus Editor

Supporter

• Mar 25, 2014

• #13

Compre the op's bird to this one. the angle is different so there is no doubt that it is a Robin, but from this angle it does appear to have white to very high on the breast. Change the angle and change the perception. That is why it is always good to get more than one photo, and Robins are pretty godd at sitting still so normally its possible to get several photos fom different angles. I also think your bird is a Robin.

 

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stonechat1

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• Mar 26, 2014

• #14

RafaelMatias said:

I'd say Robin and partial albino Blackbird.

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:t:

 

Jeff Hopkins

Just another...observer

• Mar 26, 2014

• #15

Andy Hurley said:

I think that the red comes down a lot further than what one would expect on
a Goldfinch, also the tail does not look right.

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I know. I was just being indulgent. :smoke:

I think it's a robin, too.

 

Andy Hurley

Gotta love nature!

Opus Editor

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• Mar 26, 2014

• #16

Jeff hopkins said:

I know. I was just being indulgent. :smoke:

I think it's a robin, too.

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:t:

 

tarzzz

Well-known member

• Mar 26, 2014

• #17

Robin.

//Ben

 

JustinG

Justin

• Mar 26, 2014

• #18

Robin and partial albino Blackbird.

 

tconzemi

Tom

Supporter

• Mar 26, 2014

• #19

just throw this one in as I find the throat patch really tiny for Robin
http://www.arkive.org/red-breasted-flycatcher/ficedula-parva/
OK it probably isn't but I do NOT see a Robin here

 

tril42

Suzanne Britton

• Mar 27, 2014

• #20

Funny...if you saw a bird like you describe in North America, I'd almost suggest Rose-Breasted Grosbeak. (Almost--not everything matches up, and besides, one doesn't expect to see them in March!) Anything else you can share about this bird: shape of beak, description of song, etc.?