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Hello All

Can you please help with identification on Dactyl`s, they always seem to get the better of me.

The albiflora is one I have come across in some shots taken in 2007 in Bristol area.
The others were taken on Saturday 19th June on a local walking trail close to home where there were hundreds of Dactyl`s
Thanks in advance
Anita


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juanit said:
Hello All

Can you please help with identification on Dactyl`s, they always seem to get the better of me.

The albiflora is one I have come across in some shots taken in 2007 in Bristol area.
The others were taken on Saturday 19th June on a local walking trail close to home where there were hundreds of Dactyl`s
Thanks in advance
Anita
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Anita

The first plant is a var alba Common Spotted.

I suspect the others are all hybrids. No doubt Sean will have an opinion as he is local to that area.

Rich M
 
maybug said:
I know spotted is very variable and that is probably what it is, but the white one has a look of fragrant about it.
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My first thoughts exactly, I wonder if it is a fragrant CSO hybrid. I have never knowingley seen one but YH posted yesterday regarding them.

All the best

John
 
Im yet to be convinced with the potential for Fragrant in image 1. I have stumbled across the inter-specific hybrid a couple of times, photos provided below for interest, of one from a couple of years ago in the Lake District. These plants looked more or less 50/50 with the two parents with the following features noted:

- narrow fragrant like flower spike (loose slightly tapering) but more robust than most fragrants
- a floret with mixed features eg long thin lateral sepals, longish spur, pale pink background colour of Fragrant compared with broader lobes and lip shape and faint 'spotting/streaking' of Common Spot (or the Dactyl influence)
- a fragrant smell
- heavily keeled leaves as per Fragrant, but spotted unlike that sp.

The plant in question does have a slight 'podgy' fragrant look to the flowers, but it also doesnt look outside of Common Spot range of variation to me, and I'd want to see more signs fragrant influence. Just my initial thoughts. Any other photos available Anita?

The others do look like hybrids between Common Spot and a Marsh Orchid, maybe Southern Marsh going on colours and shape eg of photo 2, although photo 4 is very dark... Its hard to do these hybrids from photos.

Cheers
 

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Hello All

Thank you for your replies.
My thoughts were Common Spotted. It was the lip that threw me, not quite the typical form I have seen before.
Unfortunately I do not have any other pictures.
It was photographed at the Lizard site in Bristol.
As to the hybrids there were southern marsh and common spotted growing together on the same site.
Many thanks
Anita
 
juanit said:
Hello All

Thank you for your replies.
My thoughts were Common Spotted. It was the lip that threw me, not quite the typical form I have seen before.
Unfortunately I do not have any other pictures.
It was photographed at the Lizard site in Bristol.
Anita
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Anita

there are regularly 3 alba Common Spotted at that site in Bristol.

Rich M
 
juanit said:
Thanks Richard

Only ever visited the site once in 2007. Met you by chance at the fibrugensis site you was with Howard.

Anita
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Yes I wondered if you were the same Anita. That friburgensis site hasn't been doing so well recently, only 1 plant this year and none last year.

Rich M
 
I agree. First is a Common Spotted albiflora (with an albeit unusually small lip) and the rest are Southern Marsh x Common Spotted hybrids of varying stature.

Mike.
 
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