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Woodpeckers in Yucatan, Mexico

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Old Thursday 18th October 2018, 13:17   #1
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Woodpeckers in Yucatan, Mexico

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My fairly awful field guide for Yucatan lists both Golden-Fronted and Yucatan Woodpeckers as common birds in the region, but is very unclear about what the separating ID features are. Would anybody be able to explain to me how to tell them apart? Which woodpeckers do I have here, or are the ID features not visible?

(My guess is Golden-Fronted for the first, Yucatan for the second. Both photos taken in April 2015 in Uxmal)

Hopefully these will be a welcome break from some of the pixelated smudges I have posted recently :)
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Old Thursday 18th October 2018, 21:10   #2
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Can't help with the ID, but 'Golden-fronted' in Yucatan (and elsewhere in Mexico away from the far NE) has been split as Velasquez's Woodpecker Melanerpes santacruzi


Edit: the bird in photo 2 has a red spot at the base of the bill; that appears to be a character of some (but not all!) subspecies of Velasquez's Wp, but not of any of Yucatan Wp, so #2 is Velasquez's Wp.

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Old Thursday 18th October 2018, 21:23   #3
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I think you have both spp, but they're actually the other way round to your suggestions. #1 Yucatan and #2 Velasquez's (Golden-fronted).

Velasquez's is larger and longer-billed, but I personally found that to be embarrassingly less obvious in the field as it ought to be. Both spp can have yellow frontal tufts, depending on location, but Yucatan can't have red.
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Agreed with Larry
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Awesome, didn't know about that split! I've had golden-fronted in the US as well, so I guess that makes Velasquez a new species for me :)
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Depends on which authority you use. Clements doesn't split Velasquez' as a full species.
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I decided quite early on to use the IOC list, and Velasquez's is good by them :)
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I think you have both spp, but they're actually the other way round to your suggestions. #1 Yucatan and #2 Velasquez's (Golden-fronted).

Velasquez's is larger and longer-billed, but I personally found that to be embarrassingly less obvious in the field as it ought to be. Both spp can have yellow frontal tufts, depending on location, but Yucatan can't have red.
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