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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 07:37   #12501
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IIRC - Westwood is strictly permit only with, literally a handful issued. A new permit only becomes available when somebody rescinds an existing one. You will have no chance of acquiring one based on the current system. Permit holders are allowed a 'guest' but i think they have to visit at the same time. If a 'good' bird is found then the place is opened up for a short period and a donation is made.

I do'nt all of the present permit holders, just a couple, and based on these all holders will be noted birders not newbies, casuals or birders of unknown provenance.

What surprises me is how much is found there but does'nt make it a few yards along at UW.....

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Wayne has done an excellent job in getting the owner to agree to open access (albeit for limited periods) for such goodies as RN Phal, Spotted Sand and Surf Scoter in recent years.
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 09:12   #12502
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IIRC - Westwood is strictly permit only with, literally a handful issued. A new permit only becomes available when somebody rescinds an existing one. You will have no chance of acquiring one based on the current system. Permit holders are allowed a 'guest' but i think they have to visit at the same time. If a 'good' bird is found then the place is opened up for a short period and a donation is made.

I do'nt all of the present permit holders, just a couple, and based on these all holders will be noted birders not newbies, casuals or birders of unknown provenance.

What surprises me is how much is found there but does'nt make it a few yards along at UW.....

ATB Laurie
Thanks for that. I thought it all seemed a bit clandestine when I was looking around for info on the Internet. Just have to wait for something good to pop up I guess and see if I can get in then!
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Right, I'm ready for a bit a decent Birding again...Lets have some ( however hopefully optimistic) predictions/ possibillities for the weekend Mr Andrews ! Personally I would welcome a Curlew Sand for starters ?
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 09:48   #12504
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The speed of the hide going up is surprising and pleasing ,just a quick question ,the distance between the windows look large and the corner distance between windows ,I know I'm looking at it from the photos , is different close up.Tim
Yes Tim I think the distance is slightly wider than the old hide.John
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 09:51   #12505
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Right, I'm ready for a bit a decent Birding again...Lets have some ( however hopefully optimistic) predictions/ possibillities for the weekend Mr Andrews ! Personally I would welcome a Curlew Sand for starters ?
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either side of us have a black tern Westwood and Bittell, anybody there at the Mecca.
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 12:08   #12508
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 15:49   #12509
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Two Hobbies at the Flashes perched on dead branch of oak tree 1.45 to 1.50. then flwew south.
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 18:24   #12510
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Thursday 16th August - saw a Slow Worm at the Flashes on the path by the Bird Feeders/Cuckoo Hide,
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 18:56   #12511
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Swifts, House Martins and Swallows moving south over the Flashes this afternoon.
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 19:01   #12512
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Thursday 16th August - saw a Slow Worm at the Flashes on the path by the Bird Feeders/Cuckoo Hide,
Nice one Tony - I am sure there must of been previous Slow Worm records from the reserve but I am struggling to think of one.
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A couple of views of the new hide. The West track is now open right through but the new hide won't be open until passed by Building Control. Early next week hopefully. The doors are locked so please do not try to go in.

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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 19:30   #12514
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Hide update - Moors Pool

Rob Allen of the Trust advises that construction of the hide finished at around 3pm today. However, due to the rain today it has not been possible to glue the Fibregrid/safety surface onto the stairs. The forecast looks good for Monday, so it is proposed to undertake this final element then. Building Control did their first inspection today and were pleased with it; they are due back on Tuesday morning. Once their final sign-off the hide can be opened, hopefully later on Tuesday.

However, for this weekend the hide will remain closed / locked although the track along the Salwarpe had been opened as is the track from the car park to the concrete / Water Rail hide.

I think the Trust deserve great credit in this instance for the swift erection of what appears so far to be a quality structure. We have a management meeting with the Trust this coming Thursday when we hope to nail down a definitive timetable for corrective works to the hide at the Flashes.
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Nice one Tony - I am sure there must of been previous Slow Worm records from the reserve but I am struggling to think of one.
I think today's record might be the first official one Phil.



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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 20:08   #12517
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I think today's record might be the first official one Phil.

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Is it in fact the first ever record of a lizard on the reserve Des?
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 20:38   #12518
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Is it in fact the first ever record of a lizard on the reserve Des?
I have seen Slow -worms myself at Upton on several occasions. I have heard of several reports also - e.g. From Paul Anthony. About ten years ago, two were by the steps of the flashes and I was lucky enough to see them.
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Is it in fact the first ever record of a lizard on the reserve Des?
As far I know, yes.


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That's amazingly quick work compared to the delays and fuss of the Flashes hide, b****y well done to the builders. I was there on Monday and the old hide was still in place then.
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 21:27   #12521
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That's amazingly quick work compared to the delays and fuss of the Flashes hide, b****y well done to the builders. I was there on Monday and the old hide was still in place then.
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Just shows what happens when you procure a proper hide builder.
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Is it in fact the first ever record of a lizard on the reserve Des?
No it isn't Phil !


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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 22:07   #12523
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Just shows what happens when you procure a proper hide builder.
It's a real pity that an experiment with un-tested builders /designers was carried out on what is arguably the most important hide at Upton - we, the amateur enthusiasts, will have to live with that experiment on the flashes for many years to come. The people who took the decision won't have to live with it because they aren't birders - that's why we need representation otherwise the corporate 'conservation professionals' will continue to make a mess of things. It is a shame that these people who have the power to make such critical decisions are never seen birding at Upton in their own free time. If they were then maybe they would understand our frustrations with them.

Having said that, I am glad to see that lessons seem to have been learned and the new hide on the moors looks to be of a much higher quality.

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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 22:10   #12524
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Saw a slow worm to the left of the steps down from the Sailing Pool a few years ago. Was with Paul Antony at the time.
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Old Friday 17th August 2012, 22:11   #12525
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Saw a slow worm to the left of the steps down from the Sailing Pool a few years ago. Was with Paul Antony at the time.
If you saw it a few years ago you were probably with Paul Curry at the time
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