Emerald Toucanet complex (1 Viewer)

jthoppes

spectacled spiderhunter

• Oct 19, 2007

• #1

Emerald Toucanet

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I just set up this disambiguation page for this complex of many names.

According to Avibase, Clements accepts this split and Howard and Moore do not.

I propose that we move these things to the shorter names Clements uses, since Clements is our sole authority for splitting them in the first place:

Black-throated (atrogularis)

Andean (albivitta)

Santa Marta (lautus)

Violet-throated (cognatus)

Wagler's (wagleri)

Blue-throated (caerogularis)

Emerald (retains prasinus)

 

Last edited: Oct 19, 2007

jthoppes

spectacled spiderhunter

• Oct 20, 2007

• #2

Since no one objected, I went ahead and renamed this batch. See the results here.

Comments? Preferably other than "I agree with the AOU, Howard and Moore, and Gill and Wright that Clements was wrong to split these, so let's lump all seven of them back again!"

 

njlarsen

Gallery Moderator

Opus Editor

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• Oct 22, 2007

• #3

I have not had time to look at this earlier, but I think I agree with what you have done: given that the split was in the database already and that one of the authorities support that, we should keep the status quo. Naming should then follow that authority.

For completeness, I looked at the SACC web-page where they only say: proposal needed, or in other words, they have not loooked at this complex yet.

Niels

 

AlexC

Aves en Los Ángeles

Opus Editor

• Jun 23, 2008

• #4

Can we get citations on what authorities use the alternative names on this disambig page?

 

wintibird

André Weiss

Opus Editor

• Mar 18, 2010

• #5

Clements no longer accepts the split of the Emerald Toucanet complex. The only remaining authoritiy to do so is IOC. I suggest we lump them all in a big Emerald Toucanet page.
Any objections or comments?

André

 

njlarsen

Gallery Moderator

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• Mar 18, 2010

• #6

Andre, that seems to be in agreement with our consensus, so go ahead

Niels

 

birdboybowley

Well-known member.....apparently so ;)

• Mar 18, 2010

• #7

Clement's lumping things...?? never....

 

njlarsen

Gallery Moderator

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• Mar 18, 2010

• #8

Clements is the dog wagged by its tail at the moment or at least it is now their policy to strictly follow AOU's two classification committees. That sometimes clash with their policy of adopting BOURC, but then it is my impression that AOU wins.

Niels

 

birdboybowley

Well-known member.....apparently so ;)

• Mar 19, 2010

• #9

AOU lumping things??.....never!