Yucatan Birds, April 2015 (1 Viewer)

rylirk

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• May 12, 2020

• #1

Both from Uxmal. My guesses are:

1. Ruddy Ground Dove
2. Cave Swallow

 

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njlarsen

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• May 12, 2020

• #2

The colors of the ground-dove seems off but I am leaning more towards a female Ruddy than a common.

For the swallow definitely not Cave, I think Ridgway's Roughwing seems likely.

Niels

 

Microtus

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• May 12, 2020

• #3

I don't know about the dove; the swallows are definitely not Cave Swallows.

 

rylirk

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• May 12, 2020

• #4

Thanks! I thought maybe the swallows were juveniles

 

njlarsen

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• May 12, 2020

• #5

For the dove, take a look at https://ebird.org/map/pbgdov1?neg=t...mr=1-12&bmo=1&emo=12&yr=all&byr=1900&eyr=2020 which is the map for https://ebird.org/species/pbgdov1. It occurs a lot closer to Uxmal than I thought, and geography was the reason I initially excluded it.

Niels

 

rylirk

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• May 14, 2020

• #6

Hmm, quite the conundrum! To my (admittedly very inexperienced in neotropic birds) eyes, I think the marking pattern and general warm brown tone of my bird is still better for ruddy? Feel free to correct me though because plain-breasted would be a nice armchair lifer

 

njlarsen

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• May 14, 2020

• #7

Maybe I relied too much on my memory, where Ruddy's are mostly like the top image of this page: https://www.birdforum.net/opus/Ruddy_Ground_Dove
I do not remember them being bland looking like the second image on the same page But that fits well with the image of female in the Fagan and Kumar book for Central America.

Niels

 

Jeff Hopkins

Just another...observer

• May 15, 2020

• #8

I agree with Ruddy Ground Dove and Northern/Ridgway's Rough-winged Swallow.