justabirdwatcher
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I would have to agree with this. I've only looked through the Monarch HG's in the store, but compared to the Conquest HD's and Swaros, they were not as bright. Fantastic in every other way, however.
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SLC, Monarch HG, Conquest or Trinovid ? (1 Viewer)
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I would have to agree with this. I've only looked through the Monarch HG's in the store, but compared to the Conquest HD's and Swaros, they were not as bright. Fantastic in every other way, however.
The Conquests are brighter because they were engineered to allow more blue light through which dramatically increases our sense of brightness. TV manufacturers do this with their tvs on display in stores by upping the blue so that they appear brighter. But what this does, is effectively lower the other colors intensities. Reds, Yellows, and oranges are especially affected and will appear much less vibrant and in my opinion, slightly dead. Birding is about enjoying nature and the Conquests make everything look slightly less beautiful in my opinion. I am probably in the minority on this, I was trained as a painter and i put a ton of emphasis on color, probably way more than other people care about, so keep that in mind.
The Conquests are extremely sharp though.
I eventually ended up with the SLC which I LOVE!! It does not have the absolute best color I have seen, but the colors are very neutral and vibrant. I can't remember which one, but one of the Leicas had the best color yet that I have seen but it wasn't very ergonomically comfortable.
The SLC is so easy on the eyes and super relaxing. The armor is also very comfortable and super durable. I have had n=mine for a few years now and show absolutely no wear at all. My conquests have not held up as well and show much more wear than the SLC's even though they have only been used a 10th of the time. They are starting to get a powdery white surface. Not sure what that is about.
I have tried the HG's at Cabelas a few times and was not impressed with them. They did not wow me like others do.
I would highly suggest the SLC. My wife has the 10x50 Swarovisions and I even prefer the view from my SLC's to them.
Be aware that they have very slow focus so they are frustrating to use during warbler season, which is only a month or so. But other than that they are amazing.
You won't regret it and they will last your lifetime.
I haven't ever really found a pair of (modern) binoculars that I thought looked 'dim'. I guess you could argue the Conquest HD and others are brighter, but I think color balance (as ArielElf mentioned above) is the bigger thing at play here.
It's again all preference. The SLC-HD are certainly the best binoculars, optically, and probably my favorite overall pair I've owned (which has been many, many pairs). But are they $500 better than a the Monarch HG, if price is a factor of interest? I would have to say no, particularly when considering the advantages of the Monarch (smaller form factor, lighter weight, wider FoV).
It's again all preference. The SLC-HD are certainly the best binoculars, optically, and probably my favorite overall pair I've owned (which has been many, many pairs). But are they $500 better than a the Monarch HG, if price is a factor of interest? I would have to say no, particularly when considering the advantages of the Monarch (smaller form factor, lighter weight, wider FoV).
All I can say is I've OWNED and STILL do each of the above binoculars. I use them birding and not in a store. I use the SLC and Monarch HG the most MAINLY due to FOV. I've owned the Trinovid HD since 08/2016. I bought my first 8X42 SLC, a SLC HD 11/2016 and the Conquest HD the same month. I bought the Monarch HG when it first came out, 01/2017. I bought the SLC WB, current model 04/2018. So the SHORTEST time I've had any one of those is two years and a month.
The difference in brightness of these four is literally nil. Go birding dusk, dawn...cloudy, etc and neither binocular is going to give the observer ANY benefit whatsoever. And neither is going to impact the observer in a negative way.
I'm not going to comment any more on this topic as it would be futile.
OP...good luck with your choice! Any of the above are fine binoculars. As another member says, proceed with confidence.
The difference in brightness of these four is literally nil. Go birding dusk, dawn...cloudy, etc and neither binocular is going to give the observer ANY benefit whatsoever. And neither is going to impact the observer in a negative way.
I'm not going to comment any more on this topic as it would be futile.
OP...good luck with your choice! Any of the above are fine binoculars. As another member says, proceed with confidence.
adeel.mohd
Adeel
adeel.mohd
Adeel
adeel.mohd
Adeel
Thnx for guiding
I hve ordered Monarch HG 8x42 coz the FOV Weight, looks r hard 2 ignore. If i dnt find Image quality good or not bright enuf. I'll return them and buy SLC. Another thing i did recieve message from members where they hve sold SLCs even ELs and kept Monarch HG bcoz of lil diff in Image quality but gr8 diff in ergonomics.
Thnx for guiding
Good luck to you!
adeel.mohd
Adeel
Received my Monarch HG 8x42 today (Pic attached)
Beautiful piece of equipment. Feels very nice in hand.
Awesome ergonomics.
Image very crisp and sharp
Some blur on the edges but i feel no impact of it.
Checked in low light, I felt it was really good but may be SLC and Conquests are more brighter.
Watched Starlings at 50-70 mts in low light.. pic was clear, i could see details but not the details which u get when u click a bird with a DSLR camera... May b SLC captures those details.. dnt knw.. Planning to buy SLC.. judge both of them and then return one of them
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I do not believe the SLC will provide you with the images you get from a DSLR (having used both), just FYI.
The difference in image quality between the MHG and the SLC will be very small, at best.
Feel free to buy and compare with the SLC, but I think you may end up disappointed...
Justin
The difference in image quality between the MHG and the SLC will be very small, at best.
Feel free to buy and compare with the SLC, but I think you may end up disappointed...
Justin
I agree of course! :t:
Received my Monarch HG 8x42 today (Pic attached)
Beautiful piece of equipment. Feels very nice in hand.
Awesome ergonomics.
Image very crisp and sharp
Some blur on the edges but i feel no impact of it.
Checked in low light, I felt it was really good but may be SLC and Conquests are more brighter.
Watched Starlings at 50-70 mts in low light.. pic was clear, i could see details but not the details which u get when u click a bird with a DSLR camera... May b SLC captures those details.. dnt knw.. Planning to buy SLC.. judge both of them and then return one of them
Nice looking binocular. If you want a binocular that may help in that regard try a SLC 10X56. Also you may try using on a tripod.
adeel.mohd
Adeel
Thanks a lot Justin and Chuck Just one last question to you EXPERTS.... What is that makes SLC then superior to Nikon Monarch HG?
Just one last question to you EXPERTS.... What is that makes SLC then superior to Nikon Monarch HG?
Conndomat
United States of Europe
Hi,
1. Higher center sharpness and better contrast
2. Less chromatic aberrations.
3. Brighter picture.
4. More natural color rendering.
5. More robust housing.
6. Edge sharpness is at least at the same level, with a little less field of vision.
It was not for nothing that I would have chosen the SLC!
... But ... If you are satisfied with the Nikon it is the right binocular for you, do not look back and enjoy the glass.
Have fun with it,
Andreas
I would agree with Andreas on maybe CA and color rendering. On the rest I would not be able to tell the difference - particularly as it relates to brightness and center sharpness. But these differences would be VERY DIFFICULT to notice in anything but direct comparisons over several different conditions - and it would be more up to the individual to decide if those minute differences are worth the large increase in cost.
Nikon has a far better focus knob, in my experience (not the the Swarovski is bad, per se, it just has an odd feel due to their design). They are also lighter and offer a wider field of view.
Justin
Nikon has a far better focus knob, in my experience (not the the Swarovski is bad, per se, it just has an odd feel due to their design). They are also lighter and offer a wider field of view.
Justin
adeel.mohd
Adeel
Thanks everyone for your help and inputs. I bought Nikon Monarch HG 8x42 after comparing with Swarovski SLC 10x42 for 3 days in low light and cloudy weather. Here is my rough review:
https://youtu.be/GfxFw6xIpeQ
https://youtu.be/GfxFw6xIpeQ
adeel.mohd
Adeel
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All true but the Nikon MHG has:Hi,
1. Higher center sharpness and better contrast
2. Less chromatic aberrations.
3. Brighter picture.
4. More natural color rendering.
5. More robust housing.
6. Edge sharpness is at least at the same level, with a little less field of vision.
It was not for nothing that I would have chosen the SLC!
... But ... If you are satisfied with the Nikon it is the right binocular for you, do not look back and enjoy the glass.
Have fun with it,
Andreas
1) Bigger FOV
2) Way less distortion
3) Much better close focus of less than 5 feet versus 10 feet for the SLC. Which is important for insect watcher's.
4) It is 4 oz. lighter at 24 oz. versus the SLC at 28 oz.
5) It is $500.00 less expensive.
adeel.mohd
Adeel
Yes true, For 3-4 days i kept watching through SLC in low light and HG and kept on finding a reason to go for SLC instead of HG but to be honest as several members mentioned there is no difference in Image quality. Almost identical and FOV, Price, weight of HG beats SLC hands down. In Warranty and Housing ofcourse SLC mayb better in long run