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A few more from Southern Greece (1 Viewer)

Deb335077

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Please help with a few more from Southern Greece

1 not sure which Buzzard
2 thought a wheatear but not sure which
3 I thought a Zitting Cisticola

Thanks Debbie
 

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Difficult from this angle, without seeing wings and tail but dark lores an rather brownish wing feathers look better for Isabelline Wheatear IMO.
 
It’s not the easiest angle indeed but I would call it a Northern.
I am sure Roland remember the last Izzy/Northern from Greece that prompted a good debate last year. One of the feature highlighted at the time was the prominent broad pale fringes to the covers (to the point that the feathers centers are concealed) Izzy show in fresh plumage.
On this bird, the alula isn’t particularly blacker than the center of the greater coverts.
Note also the face pattern with a bulging supercilium above the eye and indistinct fore-supercilium, a typical Northern pattern, likewise the ear-coverts appear slightly darker than the throat.
 
It’s not the easiest angle indeed but I would call it a Northern.
I am sure Roland remember the last Izzy/Northern from Greece that prompted a good debate last year. One of the feature highlighted at the time was the prominent broad pale fringes to the covers (to the point that the feathers centers are concealed) Izzy show in fresh plumage.
On this bird, the alula isn’t particularly blacker than the center of the greater coverts.
Note also the face pattern with a bulging supercilium above the eye and indistinct fore-supercilium, a typical Northern pattern, likewise the ear-coverts appear slightly darker than the throat.

Yes I remember. And I also remember that you are right usually - as in this case. It was a quick look (still happens after so many years :-C) and as I look again now I have to agree the alula doesn't look black enough and the fringes of the coverts not broad enough.
 
these photo's were taken in the same place and a couple of days later if this is any help
 

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