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i want to get a bigger scope and have seen two online,TSN821+32eyepiece at £600. and TSN820 SV+30 eyepiece at £750.would like to hear from anyone who has used either and which is best.
i want to get a bigger scope and have seen two online,TSN821+32eyepiece at £600. and TSN820 SV+30 eyepiece at £750.would like to hear from anyone who has used either and which is best.
I owned a 821 for a while. It was great whilst the light was good, but it was not so great at dawn and dusk. So i part-ex'd it for a 2nd hand Apo Leica 77mm. That was over 7 years ago and I've seen no reason to change since.
You pays your money and you takes your choice etc but i'd recommend a scope with a ED/HD/whatever they are called nowadays lens over a standard lens scope. It's when you need to define that distant sighting that really matters and I'm afraid my old Kowa could not resolve far off SEO's at the Nene Washes at dusk that did for it. Who needs to be frustrated by gauzy imaging when you are out to enjoy whatever you can see? Not I said me!
The 821 is overpriced. You can get an 823/824 fluorite scope used for that price. Neither of the scopes you mention have fluorite lenses. The sv scope can take current Kowa eyepieces so would be better.
Someone is selling a used 823 with 32x and 50x for £650 I think here on BF. A bit high as retail used they go for about £600 with a 32x eyepiece only. It does include a case though.
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=165264 here's the thread for the 2nd hand 823.
Now looking for offers over £600. I actually think the price is pretty reasonable for 2 eyepieces and SOC, I'd be tempted if I didn't already have one.
Thanks guys for the info,i put in a bid for the scope mentioned above and bought it.It arrived today ,i set it up and was watching ravens and peregrine interacting from my living room.cheers for helping me make up my mind.:t:
Thanks guys for the info,i put in a bid for the scope mentioned above and bought it.It arrived today ,i set it up and was watching ravens and peregrine interacting from my living room.cheers for helping me make up my mind.:t:
Hi,
For your information, I just bought a second hand Kowa TSN 823 Prominar Fluorite fully multicoated lenses at 400€ (approx 350£) including a 20-60 zoom, and cordura.....but without user manual, particularly for lense cleaning.
Who can give me a copy of this manual? Or where to find it? (even a 822 or 821 manual will be welcome!!!).
Hi,
For your information, I just bought a second hand Kowa TSN 823 Prominar Fluorite fully multicoated lenses at 400€ (approx 350£) including a 20-60 zoom, and cordura.....but without user manual, particularly for lense cleaning.
Who can give me a copy of this manual? Or where to find it? (even a 822 or 821 manual will be welcome!!!).
I'd be surprised if you can't get the manual off the net somewhere, I recently bought a Sony digital camera at a very good price, the downside was no manual, I just went on Google and did a search on the make and model, 5 mins later I'd downloaded the manual. Not saying it will be as easy for a Kowa scope, but worth a try.