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Old Monday 3rd June 2019, 09:55   #1
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id pls, Malaysia

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First looks like juvenile Orange-bellied Flowerpecker, second is a sunbird, I guess Brown-throated.
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Old Monday 3rd June 2019, 23:22   #3
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Old Tuesday 4th June 2019, 02:41   #4
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2 I think Van Hasselt's sunbird
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Thanks, I agree with Van Hasselt's.
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Do you mean Maroon-bellied Sunbird ?

I don't know well the female of that one but, online, I think the strong super and the piece of orbital eye-ring on the lower part are better for Brown-throated. I'll be happy to be proven wrong, if possible with a feature or two to know where is my mistake.
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Yes, HBW has renamed Van Hasselt's Maroon-bellied Sunbird. I'm not sure when this happened or why.

I would also suggest this individual is this species, as the bill looks a little long and decurved for Brown-throated and the head is rather greyish with a weak eye-ring. The pale throat contrasting with the rest of the underparts isn't typical of Brown-throated either. There seems to be some reddish coloration coming through on the breast - I'm not sure whether or not it's just an artifact and what it signifies.
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Thank you for all the responds. I am no id expert, but I have shot countless brown-throated SB. The first obvious difference is size, of course you cannot tell from the photo, but for me I would immediately discount it as a brown-throated SB. The brown-throated usually has very strong red pigment in the eyes, sometimes weaker for juv.
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Yes, HBW has renamed Van Hasselt's Maroon-bellied Sunbird. I'm not sure when this happened or why.

I would also suggest this individual is this species, as the bill looks a little long and decurved for Brown-throated and the head is rather greyish with a weak eye-ring. The pale throat contrasting with the rest of the underparts isn't typical of Brown-throated either. There seems to be some reddish coloration coming through on the breast - I'm not sure whether or not it's just an artifact and what it signifies.
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