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Old Tuesday 14th May 2019, 08:40   #351
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For those who are interested in the history of and the binoculars produced by Hartmann, Wetzlar and how the binoculars of that company perform as compared to other producers: look at the WEB-site of House of Outdoor under VERREKIJKERS and than VERREKIJKERS TESTEN EN VERGELIJKEN. I have posted there a number of tests (sometimes also mentioned on BF) and Powerpoints and one of these powerpoints is about Hartmann, Wetzlar.
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Old Thursday 11th July 2019, 17:04   #352
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Good morning everyone,

I recently obtained binoculars and was looking for some help on potentially identifying the age of them. They are labeled at “Ernst Abbe” with “Jena” underneath Ernst Abbe. On the other side shows the magnification “P8x30.” Also shows the serial number “2619695.” From the little research I did I was able to find that Ernst Abbe was born 23 January 1840 and was a physicist. Also Abbe was a professor at the University of Jena.

Any information would be appreciated.

https://i.postimg.cc/gxDqhDTD/63039-...-E83-CA290.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/f3qc2bZS/76-BC4...5842293-AA.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/67pVfZsN/9-E305...-F7342-A96.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/dhvjDX43/CFB65-...20-DA99204.jpg
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Old Thursday 11th July 2019, 17:27   #353
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Hi, Brad. You may find some helpful clues here:
https://www.birdforum.net/showrthrea...ferrerid=31246
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Old Thursday 11th July 2019, 18:24   #354
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Thanks for the help. The link doesn’t work unfortunately
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Old Thursday 11th July 2019, 20:20   #355
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Hi,

here's the corrected link:

https://www.birdforum.net/showthread...ferrerid=31246

Regarding Ernst Abbe - he was indeed a physicist, but more importantly he was an early employee (and later partner) of Carl Zeiss and was responsible for many of the groundbreaking optical designs which made Carl Zeiss Jena famous.

His name on this pair of bins probably should imply that this is some kind of Zeiss instrument - but this can't be true.
If the serial number was correct, this pair would date from 1912, a time when Zeiss did not produce an 8x30 pair.

http://www.europa.com/~telscope/zeissbin.txt

http://home.europa.com/~telscope/zeissbn2.txt

I'd guess this pair is of soviet or russian origin... probably KOMZ.

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Old Friday 12th July 2019, 01:34   #356
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Thank you very much for the information. It is interesting that I have not been able to find others online with the Ernst Abbe logo. Every other Jena binoculars have zeiss' name. A friend of mine just gave them to me- and apparently they belonged to her deceased husband and were passed down from his father - who was born in the late1800s.

Once again, thank you.

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Old Friday 12th July 2019, 16:02   #357
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The markings are odd.

The p may be a Ro.

8x3o seems odd also.
I would expect 8x30.

There are skilled Polish fakes, so it may be one of these with a Soviet original binocular.
The condition looks good.
I don't recognise the case either.

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