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Old Thursday 30th May 2019, 13:51   #1
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Kite Optics Lynx HD+

Kite Optics is launching a new binocular line, the Lynx HD+ in 30mm, 42mm and 50mm.

See: https://www.kiteoptics.com/en/nature...t/207/lynx-hd/
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Old Thursday 30th May 2019, 18:32   #2
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Thank you for this info and link, Boris!
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 16:16   #3
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Any ideas what is supposed to be improved? Optical specs appear the same as the previous HD (looking at the 30mm models); mechanically they are 3 mm shorter and a bit heavier. Is this a re-housing of the same optics?
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Old Sunday 2nd June 2019, 17:25   #4
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Any ideas what is supposed to be improved? Optical specs appear the same as the previous HD (looking at the 30mm models); mechanically they are 3 mm shorter and a bit heavier. Is this a re-housing of the same optics?
A seemingly simple thing like changing the eye pieces can affect the eye relief; the field of view and even the length of a binocular depending on the eye piece's design.

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Old Monday 3rd June 2019, 08:40   #5
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A seemingly simple thing like changing the eye pieces can affect the eye relief; the field of view and even the length of a binocular depending on the eye piece's design.

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True, but with eye relief and field of view unchanged according to the specs it looks to me that it might just be a case of shorter eyecups.
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Old Monday 3rd June 2019, 15:48   #6
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Kite apparently improved the 8x30 Lynx by changing from HD to HD+ glass. See the link in Post 1.

Leica did the same thing when they changed from HD to HD+ glass in their Ultravid binoculars but there were no physical differences between the two versions like there is with the Kite Lynx.

https://www.kiteoptics.com/en/huntin...t/144/lynx-hd/

You will probably have to examine the 2 Kite versions together. The HD+ is 3mm shorter overall than the HD which could come from "tweaking" the eyepieces and it is 34 grams lighter, possibly by making the eye cups from lighter materials, which is just speculation on my part.

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Old Monday 3rd June 2019, 18:25   #7
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The new one is heavier, actually. 495 vs 461 g for the 8x30.
As for the glass, they both say "HD optical system". Beyond that, you're reading between the lines.

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Old Monday 3rd June 2019, 21:47   #8
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Look at the link in Post #5. The title is LYNX HD at the top of the Product page. Then look at the link in Post #1. It says LYNX HD+ at the top of the Product Page.

They are selling two different types of glass. I'm not reading between the lines.

But the weights I gave for the two binoculars were backwards. The HD+ is heavier. So that screws up my speculation. Maybe the eye cups are heavier?



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What are you calling "different types of glass"?
Can you point me to where exactly on the Kite product pages it says the Lynx HD+ has new, better, improved or just different glass than the Lynx HD. I'm not seeing it.
There's a lot of hyperbole in the description of the Lynx HD+ but I'm failing to see any statement comparing it to the previous Lynx HD.

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Hi Mark,

You may be right. I have assumed that Kite's use of the designations HD and HD+ mean the same thing as Leica's designations HD and HD-Plus and they may not.

They may not mean anything. It may be just advertising on Kite's part. (Glass formulas used in binoculars are proprietary I am told.)

Kite is introducing a new Lynx binocular as HD+ at the end of June 2019 distinguishing it from Kite's earlier Lynx HD model.

https://www.kiteoptics.com/en/nature...t/207/lynx-hd/

5 years down the line if one comes across a Kite Lynx ED one will know that it is older than the Kite Lynx ED+ assuming that the designations are printed on the binocular somewhere. Other than that it isn't much use to a purchaser.

https://www.kiteoptics.com/en/huntin...t/144/lynx-hd/

It would be helpful if a representative from Kite addressed these questions.

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PS: They do look different. The new model has a red ring at the base of the left eye cup.

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Old Tuesday 11th June 2019, 12:56   #11
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I contacted Kite asking what are the differences between the Lynx HD and the new Lynx HD+, and received a reply listing the following improvements in the new model:
- 2% higher light transmission;
- more comfort for people wearing glasses - I take this to mean a higher effective eye relief (the eye relief spec, from the glass, is unchanged);
- removable eyecups with 4 positions;
- tethered objective caps.
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Old Tuesday 11th June 2019, 13:36   #12
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I did have to reread the advert blurb several times as it is so incredulous........

"beyond optical limits", like no other binocular anywhere and other claims.

Just marketing tricks and a load of mumbo jumbo to grab attention and persuade potential purchasers.

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I did have to reread the advert blurb several times as it is so incredulous........

"beyond optical limits", like no other binocular anywhere and other claims.

Just marketing tricks and a load of mumbo jumbo to grab attention and persuade potential purchasers.

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I agree, lots of unnecessary and exaggerated claims. We are used to that sort of thing from Steiner et al, but this seems new for Kite - and they dont really need that (my view as a satisfied owner of a number of Kite glasses).
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I think some stores on mainland Europe have had models for a week or two and they should be arriving at selected UK dealers about now. Any one had a look yet?

Attached is the UK press release including prices.

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File Type: pdf lynx hd+ press release.pdf (1.43 MB, 24 views)

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Any one had a look yet?

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I will get one (8x42) in 10 days and report back once I had a chance to review.
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