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Buzzards Migrating over Egypt April 2019

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Old Thursday 30th May 2019, 14:15   #1
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Buzzards Migrating over Egypt April 2019

These birds migrate at the same time as the storks over Egypt twice per year.

I have never seen so many in one flock. Are they just buzzards please, or different types?

These photos were taken beginning of April 2019 right over my roof terrace in El Gouna on the Red Sea Coast of Egypt.

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Old Thursday 30th May 2019, 14:29   #2
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Those are Common Buzzard (vulpinus subspecies, sometimes called "Steppe Buzzard") with Black or Yellow-billed Kite.
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Old Thursday 30th May 2019, 14:50   #3
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Looks like a dark Honey bottom left?

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Old Saturday 1st June 2019, 06:45   #5
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This is a close up I took September 2017. Comparing the markings online it looks like a Honey Buzzard?

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Old Saturday 1st June 2019, 07:37   #6
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More older photos:

One from a group of 50 taken 4th September 2018:

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19th September 2016:

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Post #5 is a Honey Buzzard.

Post #6 first bird is a Black Kite, then all Honey Buzzards with the exception of the upper right bird in the last picture which is a Buzzard.
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Always worth examining these ‘kettles’ for anything odd - it helps when IDing in the field.

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Kettles. A new word I have learn today. Thank you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kettle_(birds)
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Old Saturday 1st June 2019, 09:31   #11
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So this Honey Buzzard (?) I stumbled across by accident. I had been with a group climbing up the small mountain opposite town, and walking back in the heat alone through El Gouna Farm searching for our driver.

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I suddenly spotted this and it had something in its mouth which I thought was a stick.

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When it took off, whatever it had in its mouth was bending.

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Don't know of any red snakes in the area. Plenty of horned vipers (Cerastes vipera) !
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honey buzzards in post 5 and 6 (pics 2-4) while #6, pic 1 is a black kite.
the bird in post 11 looks like a juvenile buteo (buteo) cirtensis (north african buzzard).
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honey buzzards in post 5 and 6 (pics 2-4) while #6, pic 1 is a black kite.
the bird in post 11 looks like a juvenile buteo (buteo) cirtensis (north african buzzard).
Interesting, thank you 😀
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Looks like a dark Honey bottom left?

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Tail is too short, another Common Buzzard.
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Tail is too short, another Common Buzzard.
Agreed - can just see the two tail bars.

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honey buzzards in post 5 and 6 (pics 2-4) while #6, pic 1 is a black kite.
the bird in post 11 looks like a juvenile buteo (buteo) cirtensis (north african buzzard).
Does cirtensis extend all the way across North Africa to the Red Sea coast? Or will this be 'proper' Long-legged Buzzard?

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I've seen adult cirtensis close to the Red Sea coast last summer.
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Post #5 is a Honey Buzzard.

Post #6 first bird is a Black Kite, then all Honey Buzzards with the exception of the upper right bird in the last picture which is a Buzzard.
I think this is another Honey Buzzard, a juvenile...
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Does cirtensis extend all the way across North Africa to the Red Sea coast? Or will this be 'proper' Long-legged Buzzard?

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Jowers et al 2019 focused on the taxa within the Buzzard superspecies via a battery of DNA techniques. Amongst their conclusions is that taxon cirtensis is best considered an allospecies of Common Buzzard, but it does have some rufinus ancestry as well...
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Jowers, MJ, S Sánchez-Ramírez, S Lopes, I Karyakin, V Dombrovski, A, Qninba, T Valkenburg, N Onofre, N Ferrand, P Beja, L, Palma and R Godinho. 2019. Unravelling population processes over the Late Pleistocene driving contemporary genetic divergence in Palearctic Buzzards, Mol. Phyl. Gen. & Evol. doi: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ympev.2019.02.004
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