james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
I may have missed something but why not compare the Zeiss to the Swaro 8x25? The other two are going to differ in obvious ways.
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Habicht 8x30 vs new CL companon 8x30 B (1 Viewer)
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Well because initially I planned to buy the CL but was intrigued by the acclaimed reviews of the Pocket thread
It has Swarovski's Swarodur, Swarobright and Swarotop coatings.
https://aa.swarovskioptik.com/download/pdf/5497475-TD.pdf
The EL has Swarotop, Swarodur, Swaroclean and Swarobright coatings.
https://aa.swarovskioptik.com/download/pdf/5222839-TD.pdf
Bob
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Samolot
Well-known member
Very tempted to try the pockets now. This was a very informative thread. By the way, I fixed most of my glare/ease-of-view issues on the habicht using winged eyecups that extend the eyecups. I posted pictures in a separate thread.
You are spot-on - the habicht's are a reference gold standard for contrast/sharpness and are the only binoculars i have looked through with dead-on accurate color reproduction.
You are spot-on - the habicht's are a reference gold standard for contrast/sharpness and are the only binoculars i have looked through with dead-on accurate color reproduction.
These said nothing about whether ed glass is used or not.
Franckly from what I have seen, CL has nothing of ED glasses
NDhunter
Experienced observer
Of several of the 8x30 Swarovski binoculars, I have not found them needing ED glass.
They perform well, and CA is not an issue at all. So I would not be concerned at all.
As far as CA goes, and that is where ED or HD glass would be important, it is not as important in the
smaller sizes, compared to 40 mm and larger.
Jerry
They perform well, and CA is not an issue at all. So I would not be concerned at all.
As far as CA goes, and that is where ED or HD glass would be important, it is not as important in the
smaller sizes, compared to 40 mm and larger.
Jerry
These are Swarovski's names for their coatings. I have forgotten what they translate into which should include their version of ED glass in one of them.
In any case the CL Companion 8x30 B has all the coatings that the ELs have except Swaroclean which has something to do with making the lenses easy keep clean.
Bob
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Actually CA is the single biggest issue of CL series.
Not in my CL Companion 8x30 B. Optically it has no issues. It is very bright and sharp. It has excellent glare control. The new "optical box" in the oculars makes eye placement as easy as simply putting it up to my eyes. I have never been troubled with CA in any binocular and it didn't bother me in my earlier Swarovski CL Series 8x30 binocular.
It is the best and easiest to use 8x30 I have ever owned and that includes my Nikon 8x30 EII and Swarovski SLC 8x30 WB.
I don't like the new strap attachments. They annoy the webbing between my thumbs and forefingers.
Bob
james holdsworth
Consulting Biologist
Not being sensitive to CA doesn't mean its not there....I have read user reports of ''no issues'' with CA before [various models], then try them myself and find CA to be obvious and troublesome.
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A2GG
Beth
The original CL 8x30 did show some CA when I tested for it in the beginning. I noticed it right in the central view too. But, it seemed minimal/subtle and is not an issue for me. I haven't noticed it again since using it (now that I don't purposefully look for it).
Been using it a while now and really like the view. CA is certainly not bad and I've seen worse, but if you're sensitive to CA then you may not like it.
I can't comment on the new CL (haven't tried it).
Been using it a while now and really like the view. CA is certainly not bad and I've seen worse, but if you're sensitive to CA then you may not like it.
I can't comment on the new CL (haven't tried it).
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I pointed out in earlier posts that the CL Companion's coatings were the same as the ELs except for not having Swaroclean.
I haven't read any complaints about CA in the EL.
Have there been complaints that the EL has problems with CA? I suspect that more people use them than use the CL Companions.
Bob
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When I tested the new CL Companions, I saw considerably less CA than in the first version CL, enough of a difference that I noted in my Finnish language only, Linnut magazine review of them that had the specifications talked about HD glass in the Companion, I would not have doubted it for a second. I'm reasonably but not super-sensitive to CA, and for me the Companion was easily good enough.
Kimmo
Kimmo
I did not know why you kept talking about coatings, now I understand.
That's the reason I ask whether ed glass is used. Official literature says nothing directly on this point, but it seems safe to infer CL series has no ed glass.
