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Old Saturday 10th April 2010, 02:11   #26
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Ken,

Scary is the word!

Love your stuff BTW!

Hope you do well with it!

I love Lars Jonnson's work.

He famously said, " I paint what I see, not what I know."

That has always been important to me. To record the truth of experience?

Coincidentally on the ID Forum today?

http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?t=167882

I still am holding back sketches from years ago, of rare birds in the UK, because they would never be believed without photo evidence!

Russ is doing a valuable job here!
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Old Saturday 10th April 2010, 18:39   #27
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Inspirational comments indeed! Honestly, I do get a buzz out of sketching, like it's an different, infinetely more challenging approach to birding and nature strudy in general, and I see kindred spirits all around on this site. I'm sure I'll never top learning to draw and see.
Bald Ibises at Tamri, not much detail I'm afraid guys; these were sketched at 60x mag quite some distance away, and the little time we had at the site meant we had to make the most of 'em like this. I'd have loved to have had a few hours with them at much closer range; anyway, here they are - one of the world's rarest birds. Alas, they didn't stir the emotions like the spooners did!

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Old Saturday 10th April 2010, 22:37   #28
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oooh eee, I like the volume you have in these
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Old Sunday 11th April 2010, 00:39   #29
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The Balds are superb. Sketching out the "isness".
I love the third frame esp. Very evocative of the bird's spirit.
It lives in these, or becomes alive.
I feel in these you begin to really understand "what makes it what it is..."
And in, your new found expertise, a few lines and some shading translate it back to us!

Perfect for me. More at ease, confident, flowing, at one with the subject.
Like that!
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Old Sunday 11th April 2010, 09:28   #30
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the distance between you and the birds I think has really helped you to see the shapes and proportions without being blinded by details. They are magnificent beasts to sketch, but a bloody bugger to draw too, mine were a lot closer, but the bars on the cage were a tad annoying! There are some great sketches here, just wish they were mine, there would be some lovely paintings to do from this little lot.
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Old Sunday 11th April 2010, 10:53   #31
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I like the lack of detail with the Ibis's Russ....the shapes and tones work wonderfully on their own...!
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Old Sunday 11th April 2010, 13:11   #32
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Never seen them before and not enough of the Glossy Ibis to really have a good sense of the family. But these do give a very clear sense of their overall shape and posture. I wonder if Nick is right that the distance was actually a help in allowing you to simplify and get to the heart of them. In any case a nice collection of sketches!
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Old Sunday 11th April 2010, 23:43   #33
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Often an impression contains the "spirit" of the bird, because that's all you have to work with.
Nick, I believe, is spot on about the "bogged down with details" point.

This free sketching. Unhindered and flowing.

I like that kind of Cave Art!
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Old Monday 12th April 2010, 09:04   #34
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This a really authentic series of sketches- Ruddy Shelduck and Audouin's have the true drawn as and when seen feel.

ps- the gentle nudges towards some coloured work won't stay gentle for ever you know- by mid-summer it will be a clamour...
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Old Monday 12th April 2010, 10:32   #35
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This a really authentic series of sketches- Ruddy Shelduck and Audouin's have the true drawn as and when seen feel.

ps- the gentle nudges towards some coloured work won't stay gentle for ever you know- by mid-summer it will be a clamour...
LOL, I've been saying this to him for...Mmmmmm at least five years? ehh Russ, You can do it!
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Old Monday 12th April 2010, 16:38   #36
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Ok Russ I think I've found a good interm step for you, Creatacolor Graphtint pencils, you can draw as usual, I like the 4b and then use plain water to turn them into a wash. They come in two versions, in wood, like any other pencil or woodless solid graphite... once you get used to the washes, color will be easy......now no excuses

They are Austrian, so you can find them on both sides of the pond...here is a quickie I did on watercolor paper, but they work on any paper a pencil works on and you can leave them as pencil. I couldn't find any samples or demos on the web, so pardon me for posting here, if you use a smoother paper you get smoother lines.
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Old Monday 12th April 2010, 20:09   #37
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I thought folk might like the style of the Ibises. I was in two minds at the time whether to attempt these due to the distance, but as I endeavour to draw what I see it wouldn't matter that I only had an impression of the pink face and bald head -the jizz is all that mattered.
I think what Nick says about just having a shape rather than detail to focus on certainly helps, but Ive been trying to 'block out' detail and just see the basic form for months, actually, so I think it's a combination of both the distance and that extra effort while out practicing. Incidentally, I was sketching curlews yesterday and bemoaning the fact that I couldn't get close enough to em, which actualy helped me get more realistic shapes.
I've heard of graphitint, Colleen, and I'll give them a go; will a selection of browns, olives and buffs do for starters?
Anyway, encore time: couldn't leave out two specialities: Levaillant's woodie near Oukamaiden and my, bird of the trip - Desert Sparrow at Erg Ghebbi out in 'Lawrence of Arabia' country. The woodie obligingly perched up for 15 mins or so, offering crippling views, and the 'spuggie' has mystique, scarcity and is a wonderful example of the environment here.

Cheers

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Ps - aye, Rockfowl has always been right: less is more; it's just that I need someone with a cattle prod behind me all the time!
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Old Monday 12th April 2010, 21:01   #38
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cracking angle on the Levaillant's, something I'd love to see. Nice full solid bird - I often draw Picus too skinny. Desert Sparrow looks like a happy chappy.
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delightful sketches Russ,

I wasn't thinking of color yet, just getting the hang of washes and values that is why I suggested the regular pencil...but by all means add some color too.
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Old Tuesday 13th April 2010, 01:20   #40
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Nice jobs Gripper!

Fold the eggs in gently, and don't knead!

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Old Wednesday 14th April 2010, 18:53   #41
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Good description regards over-egging, Phil. I'd better pull out my copy of John Busby's 'Birds In Mallorca' for a master class in simple lines and washes.
Collen, I'll take a look at Derwent's website at Graphitint - I thought they only did them in colour.

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