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Old Wednesday 13th June 2018, 14:36   #1
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Warbler ?

I have seen him in a Lar Plain which is 35.912343, 51.990337

thank you for your identification.
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Old Wednesday 13th June 2018, 14:45   #2
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Gut reaction is Marsh Warbler, but I'm not familiar with Iran and always struggling with Acrocephalids... I comment to force me to learn, slowly by slowly...
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Old Wednesday 13th June 2018, 15:14   #3
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to me this looks like a fuscus eurasian reed warbler. they're not as red as nominate ones and also have the pale primary margins like marsh warbler. but it's really hard to be sure from this pic alone. a sound recording of this obviously singing bird would have solved the ID
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to me this looks like a fuscus eurasian reed warbler. they're not as red as nominate ones and also have the pale primary margins like marsh warbler. but it's really hard to be sure from this pic alone. a sound recording of this obviously singing bird would have solved the ID
That is to make identification less easy

I guess Reed Warbler makes more sense, I'm not sure even if Marsh is in Iran.
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to me this looks like a fuscus eurasian reed warbler. they're not as red as nominate ones and also have the pale primary margins like marsh warbler. but it's really hard to be sure from this pic alone. a sound recording of this obviously singing bird would have solved the ID
Many Thanks Dear Lou,

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That is to make identification less easy

I guess Reed Warbler makes more sense, I'm not sure even if Marsh is in Iran.
Both appear to breed in this part of Iran Valery. I wouldn't like to make a call either way based on this image but, wouldn't the habitat favour Marsh? Sound advice from Lou, a recording would confirm ID.

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Both appear to breed in this part of Iran Valery. I wouldn't like to make a call either way based on this image but, wouldn't the habitat favour Marsh? Sound advice from Lou, a recording would confirm ID.

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Thank you so much dear Grahame ,

Unfortunately there is no sound for more id.
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Both appear to breed in this part of Iran Valery. I wouldn't like to make a call either way based on this image but, wouldn't the habitat favour Marsh? Sound advice from Lou, a recording would confirm ID.

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I admit habitat has, at least unconsciously, influenced my gut feeling...

There is no difference of PP ? It seems the length is similar to our Marsh Warblers in Europe and Africa.
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Thank you so much dear Grahame ,

Unfortunately there is no sound for more id.
Superb photos showing habitat and dare I add, behaviour more favouring Marsh ( singing in such an exposed position). You must have been pretty close, what was the song like to your ears?
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