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Yellow-rumped Flycatcher: female vs immature male? (1 Viewer)

earlytorise

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As far as the Yellow-rumped Flycatcher is concerned, is there any observable difference between females and immature (say, first-winter) males? I've seen a few YRF in female plumage this autumn, but as I look through pictures on the Oriental Bird Club, some of which are labelled "first-winter", I wonder how they can be definitively identified as such.

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=2690&Bird_Image_ID=24519

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=2690&Bird_Image_ID=8854

http://orientalbirdimages.org/search.php?Bird_ID=2690&Bird_Image_ID=54769
et cetera
 
I believe the main way of identifying 1st calendar year male in autumn is that they have black upper tail coverts.
 
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I believe the main way of identifying 1st calendar year male in autumn is that they have black upper tail coverts.

I wish it were so straightforward Dave. Adult female can show essentially black/blackish utc's with a narrow olive brown tip.

The 3 images are all 1st-w's by virtue of the narrow buffish tips to the outermost greater coverts which are retained juvenile feathers. Further, the upper two tertials exhibit a pale 'hooked' tip typical of this age. Adult female shows a variable amount of white to the inner greater coverts only which, may form a solid white patch.

Speaking to Phil Round, sexing 1st-w's is problematic as there is much overlap but a proportion of males may be reliably sexed by a combination of 1) wing length 2)width of rump band and 3) strength of yellow suffusion to the underparts while birds with entirely brown rumps are likely to be females.

So, I would not attempt to sex any of the examples shown above.

Grahame
 
I wish it were so straightforward Dave. Adult female can show essentially black/blackish utc's with a narrow olive brown tip.

The 3 images are all 1st-w's by virtue of the narrow buffish tips to the outermost greater coverts which are retained juvenile feathers. Further, the upper two tertials exhibit a pale 'hooked' tip typical of this age. Adult female shows a variable amount of white to the inner greater coverts only which, may form a solid white patch.

Speaking to Phil Round, sexing 1st-w's is problematic as there is much overlap but a proportion of males may be reliably sexed by a combination of 1) wing length 2)width of rump band and 3) strength of yellow suffusion to the underparts while birds with entirely brown rumps are likely to be females.

So, I would not attempt to sex any of the examples shown above.

Grahame

Thank you Grahame, you have reminded me of why I elected a long time ago to ignore the question of ageing/sexing these birds!
 
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