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Just to avoid that someone else may search for all simonsi entries mentioned in the key:

https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/114181#page/160/mode/1up Perry Oveitt Simons Atlapetes seebohmi simonsi (Sharpe, 1900)
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/55162#page/76/mode/1up Odontophorus gujanensis simonsi Chubb, C, 1919
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/100942#page/59/mode/1up Pardirallus sanguinolentus simonsi Chubb, C, 1917
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/100942#page/43/mode/1up Scytalopus simonsi Chubb, C, 1917
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/100942#page/67/mode/1up Attagis gayi simonsi Chubb, C, 1918
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/117343#page/99/mode/1up Buteo erythronotus simonsi Swann, 1920
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/100942#page/56/mode/1up Nothoprocta pentlandii simonsi Chubb, 1917
https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/55162#page/330/mode/1up Oreophilus ruficollis simonsi Chubb, 1919

I checked them as I think the Simons who collected Ramphomicron dorsale https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/97642#page/196/mode/1up is a different guy called Frederic A. A. Simons author of e.g.

• F. A. A. Simons: Notes on the topography of the S. N. of Santa Marta. Proc. Royal Geogr. Soc, Bd. I (N. S.), Jahrgang 1879, S. 689-694.
• F. A. A. Simons : On the S. N. of Santa Marta and its watershed. Proc. Royal Geogr. Soc, Bd. III (N.S), Jahrgang 1881, S. 705-723
• F. A. A. Simons, “An Exploration of the Goajira Peninsula, U. S. of Colombia,” Proceedings of the Royal Geographical Society and Monthly Record of Geography, New Monthly Series, Vol. 7, No. 12 (Dec., 1885), 781-796

In Ibis 1923 we can find p. 553:

The first explorer of the Santa Marta region was Mr. F. A. A. Simons who went there in 1878, and was for several years occupied in collecting for Messrs. Salvin and Godman.

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But it was not worth to honor him in a bird name.

So nothing new and take it for what's worth.

P.S. There is only one non etymological question left why Attagis gayi simonsi has a publishing date of 1918 while all others of the same BOCC volume have 1917?

Taphrospilus said:

P.S. There is only one non etymological question left why Attagis gayi simonsi has a publishing date of 1918 while all others of the same BOCC volume have 1917?

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Dates of publication are given in the footer of the first page of each issue.

No. CCXXVII, pp. [1]-12 : Oct 30, 1917 - https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32431059
No. CCXXVIII, pp. [13]-24 : Dec 4, 1917 - https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32431071
No. CCXXIX, pp. [25]-36 : Dec 29, 1917 - https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32431083
No. CCXXX, pp. [37]-50 : Jan 28, 1918 - https://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/32431095
etc.

A. g. simonsi is on p. 41, thus 1918. The others are on pp. 17, 30, and 33, thus 1917.

Thank's for that.:t:

P.S. Even no bird named after him in the year 1922 Frederic A. A. Simons was named as late https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/117011#page/19/mode/1up

For the sake of completeness here:

Frederic Adolphus Alexander Simons (1850-1917)

Regarding "Frederic" A. A. Simons ...

Taphrospilus said:

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P.S. Even no bird named after him in the year 1922 Frederic A. A. Simons was named as late https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/117011#page/19/mode/1up

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Martin, first; I don't know anything additional, or contradictory, regarding the different birds with the scientific name/s simonsi, nor do I know anything about the two Messrs. Simons mentioned, [simply as I 'd never heard of those guys before this thread, nor have I looked into neither one of them, none of them are "mine", as neither one of those birds are included in my MS (of Swedish Common Bird names)], but I think you will find that your guy "F. A. A. Simons" is commemorated in the English (alternate/earlier used) vernacular/common name "Simon's Sabre-wing" (as, for example, here), for today's Santa Marta Sabrewing Campylopterus phainopeplus [which could fit your Hummingbird interest – OD here]. If the other guy, Perry Oveitt Simons, truly was born in "1869" (which he most likely was, I see no reason to question or doubt it), he would have been nothing but a kid when "Simon's Sabre-wing" was collected/described.

Regarding the (full) name of Mr Simons (in "Simon's Sabre-wing"), at least the initial "F" was confirmed in Allen's List of Birds from Santa Marta, Colombia, in Bulletin of the American Museum of Natural History (1900), here: "As Messrs. Salvin and Godman stated in I879 (Ibis, April, I879, p. 197) in their report on the collection made in this region by Mr. F. Simons in I878 and 1879: ..." [referring to the same paper/OD, as in the second link above].

Also Bangs (1899) wrote his name as; "F. Simons" (here, on the very first page of the PDF).

Which lead us (like you pointed out/at) to; "... the British explorer, naturalist and geographer Frederic A.A. Simons"; here, alt. here (in Spanish).

Though; also see the fairly recent book (Thesis?):
• Carla Gómez Creutzberg. 2017. Viajeros y espacios en disputa Frederick A.A. Simons y el caribe colombiano a finales del siglo XIX. Raíces de la geografía colombiana vol. 2, Books, Universidad Externado de Colombia, Facultad de Ciencias Sociales y Humanas, number 114 (here, alt. here or here, equally all in Spanish).

To me it looks like his full name was Frederick Adolphus Alexander Simons ... born ca. 1851 ... and he died in London, 7 June 1917. See quote below (my blue):

En enero de 1878 llega a las costas de Riohacha Frederick Adolphus Alexander Simons, un explorador británico de 27 años de edad que se proponía recorrer extensamente la Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, a fin de resolver los interrogantes que por aquel entonces se tenían sobre su historia natural, su configuración topográfica y, en especial, su elevacion máxima. El 7 junio de 1917, 39 años después, Simons fallece en Londres sin haber determinado con certeza la altura de la Sierra Nevada, pero ... [from page 11]

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Which version of his first (given) name, "Frederic" or/alt. "Frederick", is the proper one is unknown to me, but I tend to believe it's the latter one. I doubt Carla Gómez Creutzberg would have written it in this way, in such a work, without having a (good) reason for it ...

Hopefully of some use/help?

Either way, enjoy!

Björn

PS. Ooups! While I was typing away, you posted your #4, but the question of how his first given name ought to be written is still unsolved ... or?

PPS. Even if we're both apparently refer to the same book (from 2017) ...!?!
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And it looks like the Birth year (1850) is correct (according to the same book, here, pp. 160 & 163):

Frederick Adolphus Alexander Simons fue un explorador que nació en Inglaterra en 1850; habiendo ...

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/B