Eurasian or Short-Toed Treecreeper, today, Germany, Saxony ( (1 Viewer)

ortolan10 said:

Hello everybody
I am still struggling with treecreeper identification. Today the bird visited the feeder. I think it is a short-toed treecreeper, but I am not sure, because the white wing bar does not look like shown in my books. The eye-stripe is not as well pronounced as should be for Eurasian Treecreeper, which I posted a while ago. The upper mandible is dark, which should point to Short-Toed according to one of my books.
Please help to improve my identification skills!
Thank you very much in advance!
Ortolan10

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Jean FRANCOIS said:

Certhia familiaris

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phil baber said:

It's "The Notch" which has my vote...

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ortolan10 said:

Thank you very much! I feel I now understood how to distinguish eurasian from short-toed treecreeper. I understood how the notch should look like. I wish I would have seen more short-toed treecreepers. So far I have only had close encounters of Eurasian treecreepers.
Thank you
ortolan10

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phil baber said:

Wait until early Spring. The "Shorties" will give themselves up on call! B

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Andy Hurley said:

I'm seeing both at the moment in OWL/Kreis Paderborn. The leaves are gone. The best time to spot either for me.

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phil baber said:

It can be a revelation to hear an outstanding music-file coming from a bird you thought was just the usual Treecreeper, you grew up with! :-O:cat:

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Andy Hurley said:

It would be a revelation to hear any birdsong in the field. My hearing is poor, I tend to rely on movement as a primary means of detection. Most birds I don't hear at all.

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Andy Hurley said:

Thanks Phil, we live with what we have and enjoy things in other ways. BTW it wasn't a sleight, just an observation... and a wee bit of jealousy

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