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Old Monday 13th August 2018, 11:53   #1
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Ecuador birds

Can someone please identify these 2 birds? Pic 1 taken in Bosque Protector Jerusalem, Ecuador in July. Hummingbird Pics 2 & 3 taken at Guango Ecuador in July.
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Old Monday 13th August 2018, 13:29   #2
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First bird maybe a Streaked Saltator.
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Agree on Saltator for the first, and as I do not have access to relevant books will leave it at that. The white vent on the second should be a good clue.

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My first impression was that of a Gorgeted Sunangel. Not sure if the white collar can sometimes be invisible, but I believe the rest of the features fit
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Tourmaline Sunangel is the default sunangel in Guango and lacks a white collar so I'd say this is it.
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I believe you're correct Eduardo, thanks.
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