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Old Sunday 8th September 2019, 06:26   #1
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Birds from Moremi Botswana

Took these 2 photos in Moremi Botswana 2 weeks ago, No idea on the first one but thinking european Honey buzzard for the Raptor. Or Bathawk
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Old Sunday 8th September 2019, 06:54   #2
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I suggest an African Marsh Harrier and a sparrow, I'd like to see another angle for precise identification.
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Old Sunday 8th September 2019, 07:01   #3
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2- Yellow-throated Bush Sparrow
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I suggest an African Marsh Harrier and a sparrow, I'd like to see another angle for precise identification.
yes Yellow Throated Sparrow looks good. Marsh harrier looks OK but no stripes on the undertail threw me off. No better angles unfortunately
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yes Yellow Throated Sparrow looks good. Marsh harrier looks OK but no stripes on the undertail threw me off. No better angles unfortunately
I agree with Yellow-throated Sparrow.

I don't see a harrier though. The combination of large eye, small beak and black crissal area is throwing me. It still seems to be relative compact, without the long wings I would expect of harrier. Marsh Harrier would only be this black if a male and the underwing does not match any male I have seen and the crissal should be pale as well.

My immediate reaction was Great (Black) Sparrowhawk, but in detail this doesn't seem to fit either.

The bird is obviously in moult, it looks as though the secondaries are short - but how this impacts the plumage is unclear.

Do you have any field notes or any other photos that give any further clues?
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I don't see a harrier though. The combination of large eye, small beak and black crissal area is throwing me. It still seems to be relative compact, without the long wings I would expect of harrier. Marsh Harrier would only be this black if a male and the underwing does not match any male I have seen and the crissal should be pale as well.

My immediate reaction was Great (Black) Sparrowhawk, but in detail this doesn't seem to fit either.

The bird is obviously in moult, it looks as though the secondaries are short - but how this impacts the plumage is unclear.

Do you have any field notes or any other photos that give any further clues?
For me no pb, it's a African Marsh Harrier.
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Ad African Marsh harrier indeed.

The bird has just started its primary moult indeed but that doesn’t really impact the shape of the bird as the first secondaries will only be dropped when about half of the hand is already replaced.
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Ad African Marsh harrier indeed.

The bird has just started its primary moult indeed but that doesn’t really impact the shape of the bird as the first secondaries will only be dropped when about half of the hand is already replaced.
Great thanks for your help guys. African Marsh Harrier it is.
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Doesn’t have the proportions or head for HB to me but it’s been over 40 years since i saw AMH

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