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July 2008 moths (1 Viewer)
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Surreybirder
Ken Noble
One of the nice things about buff arches is that it's easy to ID 
David, I'm stuck on your English geometer... I wondered about engrailed and satin beauty but there's not much to go on.
Funnily enough, I can see the straw dot more clearly from the thumbnail, especially now it's been IDed!!
Thanks for your kind comment on my pix. Considering the stick I used to get when I first started posting moth pix here, I've made some progress. But, truth to tell, once you've got a decent camera there's not much skill involved.
Ken
David, I'm stuck on your English geometer... I wondered about engrailed and satin beauty but there's not much to go on.
Funnily enough, I can see the straw dot more clearly from the thumbnail, especially now it's been IDed!!
Thanks for your kind comment on my pix. Considering the stick I used to get when I first started posting moth pix here, I've made some progress. But, truth to tell, once you've got a decent camera there's not much skill involved.
Ken
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Steve Lister
Senior Birder, ex County Recorder, Garden Moths.
Last night's moths set a new record for my present garden - 115 moths of 34 species if I sort out all the micros and an unfamiliar noctuid that I am attaching. The grid is 10mm. It looks a bit like a Cabbage and a bit like a Flounced Rustic but I don't think it is either. Please can anyone ID it?
Large Yellow Underwings have suddenly rocketed from a couple a night to 19 last night, and Lessers are now appearing as well.
Steve
Large Yellow Underwings have suddenly rocketed from a couple a night to 19 last night, and Lessers are now appearing as well.
Steve
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Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Dusky Brocade?
Good night for me last night. A couple of Brown-tails the best so far but still going through the catch.
Good night for me last night. A couple of Brown-tails the best so far but still going through the catch.
Steve Lister
Senior Birder, ex County Recorder, Garden Moths.
Thanks Brian. How significant is your question mark? I am puzzled by the curved mark below the cross bar.
Steve
Steve
MikeWall
HantsMoth-er
One of the most biased and ill-informed books ever written. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story. Fantastic fodder for the creationist brigade (and boy have they jumped in to use it to bash evolution!) Just try typing "Judith Hooper Moths and Men Majerus" into Google... (the inclusion of Majerus becomes clear when reading some of the creationist rubbish you'll find)
Mike
MikeWall
HantsMoth-er
black52bird
Registered User
Well thanks for that, Mike......
I always like a good slap-down!! (LOL!!)
It certainly did make a good story.....
I wonder if you'd care to express an opinion on the Geometer I put up on post 44 of this thread? Caught in Norwich last week.
Best
David
Steve Lister
Senior Birder, ex County Recorder, Garden Moths.
That's what I like, someone who makes things clear.
Thanks Mike (and Brian).
Steve
Thanks Mike (and Brian).
Steve
MikeWall
HantsMoth-er
Sorry David, the red mist came down! :C The trouble is, once stuff like this gets published it becomes impossible to get rid off. In cases like this, Robespierre had it right - burn the books!
I'd have to do some research on the geo, sorry.
Edit: sorry, thought it was caught in Hungary! Looks like a worn Willow Beauty.
Mike
I'd have to do some research on the geo, sorry.
Edit: sorry, thought it was caught in Hungary! Looks like a worn Willow Beauty.
Mike
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SveinB
Well-known member
Quite a good night here in Norway too, a couple of new ones in the trap:
Orange Swift- Triodia sylvina 1
Phoenix- Eulithis prunata 1
The most exciting catch of today was another little dayflying fellow:
Pennisetia hylaeformis- 2
A species of the clearwing moths (not in UK), they came to my homemade pheromone trap, made out of 1,5 liter bottles, and baited with a small pheromone lure. 5 min after hanging the trap in the tree the first one sat there, and 15 minutes later the second one was trapped.
Added is some photos of the catch of today-
Poplar Gray
Orange Swift
Pennisetia hylaeformis inside trap
The homemade trap hung in the tree, clearwing moth inside.
Svein B
Orange Swift- Triodia sylvina 1
Phoenix- Eulithis prunata 1
The most exciting catch of today was another little dayflying fellow:
Pennisetia hylaeformis- 2
A species of the clearwing moths (not in UK), they came to my homemade pheromone trap, made out of 1,5 liter bottles, and baited with a small pheromone lure. 5 min after hanging the trap in the tree the first one sat there, and 15 minutes later the second one was trapped.
Added is some photos of the catch of today-
Poplar Gray
Orange Swift
Pennisetia hylaeformis inside trap
The homemade trap hung in the tree, clearwing moth inside.
Svein B
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Reader
Well-known member
I ran the trap from 10pm to 02:30 last night and boy was my garden
busy. In the end I trapped about 320 moths with more arriving as I
packed up.
I still have at least four moths I am working on but so far I have
managed to ID 63 species (including a few aggs)
They were:
33 x Large Yellow Underwing
31 x Dark Arches
22 x Riband Wave (7 banded)
22 x Chrysoteuchia culmella
18 x Crambus pascuella
17 x The Snout
15 x Mother of Pearl
9 x Uncertain
8 x Small magpie
8 x Bright-line Brown-eye
7 x The Fan-foot
7 x The Flame
7 x Heart & Dart
7 x Marbled Minor agg
6 x Bramble Shoot Moth
6 x Scalloped Oak
6 x Ermine agg
4 x Swallow-tailed Moth
4 x Common Rustic agg
3 x Dot Moth
3 x LBAM
3 x Light Arches
3 x The Spectacle
3 x The Dun-bar
3 x Phlyctaenia coronata
3 x Eudonia mercurella
3 x Eucosma cana (could be 4)
2 x Brown House-moth
2 x Yellow Shell
2 x Bee Moth
2 x Garden carpet
2 x Blood-vein
2 x Buff Arches
2 x The Clay
2 x Flame Shoulder
2 x Grey/Dark Dagger
2 x Silver Y
2 x worn Pugs (too worn to ID)
2 x Golden Triangle
2 x Lesser Yellow Underwing
2 x Short-cloaked Moth
2 x Bird Cherry Ermine
2 x Common White Wave
2 x Green Pug
1 x Elephant Hawkmoth
1 x Poplar Hawkmoth
1 x Old Lady
1 x White Plume Moth
1 x Small Dusty Wave
1 x Early Thorn
1 x Crambus perlella
1 x Lozotaeniodes formosanus
1 x Common Footman
1 x Scarce Footman
1 x Dark Fruit-tree Tortrix
1 x Large Fruit-tree Tortrix
1 x Smokey Wainscot
1 x Double-striped Pug
1 x Square-spot Rustic
1 x White-shouldered House Moth
1 x Bryotropha affinis
1 x Water Veneer (NFG)
1 x Coleophora lutipennella or flavipennella
I still have three Tortrix and a Pug to ID and will add those if I
ever find out what they are.
I have added a few photos of my catch.
1. Old lady
2. Scalloped Oak
3. Lozotaeniodes formosanus
4. Short-cloaked Moth
5. Phlyctaenia coronata
John
busy. In the end I trapped about 320 moths with more arriving as I
packed up.
I still have at least four moths I am working on but so far I have
managed to ID 63 species (including a few aggs)
They were:
33 x Large Yellow Underwing
31 x Dark Arches
22 x Riband Wave (7 banded)
22 x Chrysoteuchia culmella
18 x Crambus pascuella
17 x The Snout
15 x Mother of Pearl
9 x Uncertain
8 x Small magpie
8 x Bright-line Brown-eye
7 x The Fan-foot
7 x The Flame
7 x Heart & Dart
7 x Marbled Minor agg
6 x Bramble Shoot Moth
6 x Scalloped Oak
6 x Ermine agg
4 x Swallow-tailed Moth
4 x Common Rustic agg
3 x Dot Moth
3 x LBAM
3 x Light Arches
3 x The Spectacle
3 x The Dun-bar
3 x Phlyctaenia coronata
3 x Eudonia mercurella
3 x Eucosma cana (could be 4)
2 x Brown House-moth
2 x Yellow Shell
2 x Bee Moth
2 x Garden carpet
2 x Blood-vein
2 x Buff Arches
2 x The Clay
2 x Flame Shoulder
2 x Grey/Dark Dagger
2 x Silver Y
2 x worn Pugs (too worn to ID)
2 x Golden Triangle
2 x Lesser Yellow Underwing
2 x Short-cloaked Moth
2 x Bird Cherry Ermine
2 x Common White Wave
2 x Green Pug
1 x Elephant Hawkmoth
1 x Poplar Hawkmoth
1 x Old Lady
1 x White Plume Moth
1 x Small Dusty Wave
1 x Early Thorn
1 x Crambus perlella
1 x Lozotaeniodes formosanus
1 x Common Footman
1 x Scarce Footman
1 x Dark Fruit-tree Tortrix
1 x Large Fruit-tree Tortrix
1 x Smokey Wainscot
1 x Double-striped Pug
1 x Square-spot Rustic
1 x White-shouldered House Moth
1 x Bryotropha affinis
1 x Water Veneer (NFG)
1 x Coleophora lutipennella or flavipennella
I still have three Tortrix and a Pug to ID and will add those if I
ever find out what they are.
I have added a few photos of my catch.
1. Old lady
2. Scalloped Oak
3. Lozotaeniodes formosanus
4. Short-cloaked Moth
5. Phlyctaenia coronata
John
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Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Good catch, John. I imagine that last night was good too?
I'm a bit puzzled by 'ermine agg'. What species are you lumping?
Ken
I'm a bit puzzled by 'ermine agg'. What species are you lumping?
Ken
Reader
Well-known member
Hi Ken
Orchard and Apple as far as I am aware are difficult to ID even with dissection. I have looked a bit harder at my photos and realise that one of them is definitely a Spindle Ermine based on the terminal cilia on the forewing being pure white, as opposed to greyish.
John
Orchard and Apple as far as I am aware are difficult to ID even with dissection. I have looked a bit harder at my photos and realise that one of them is definitely a Spindle Ermine based on the terminal cilia on the forewing being pure white, as opposed to greyish.
John
robhope
Well-known member
First trapping for a while
A reasonable haul last night, but then given the recent weather it was just good to get the trap out again. Three of the best:-
1. Early Thorn (the colour made me plump for Purple Thorn initially)
2. Suspected (slightly worse for wear - several angry wasps & bees in the trap)
3. Unknown micro (maybe a worn Lozotaeniodes formosanus as in Readers post)
Here is hoping the weather stays fair...
robhope
Egrets, I've had a few
A reasonable haul last night, but then given the recent weather it was just good to get the trap out again. Three of the best:-
1. Early Thorn (the colour made me plump for Purple Thorn initially)
2. Suspected (slightly worse for wear - several angry wasps & bees in the trap)
3. Unknown micro (maybe a worn Lozotaeniodes formosanus as in Readers post)
Here is hoping the weather stays fair...
robhope
Egrets, I've had a few
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Reader
Well-known member
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
I suspect the suspected is a Common Rustic agg.
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
I didn't get many moths last night, and I lost a few while I was trying to extricate six hornets without being attacked.
Provisional list:
old lady (nfy)
brimstone
E postvittana
White plume Pterophorus pentadactyla (nfy)
com footman 2
poplar hawk (dead, presumably thanks to hornets)
rosy footman (nfy)
ruby tiger (nfy)
yellow-tail
A neighbour found a white admiral in his garden. It was pretty clapped out but I was able to get a shot of it.
Ken
Provisional list:
old lady (nfy)
brimstone
E postvittana
White plume Pterophorus pentadactyla (nfy)
com footman 2
poplar hawk (dead, presumably thanks to hornets)
rosy footman (nfy)
ruby tiger (nfy)
yellow-tail
A neighbour found a white admiral in his garden. It was pretty clapped out but I was able to get a shot of it.
Ken
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SveinB
Well-known member
Cold and windy here tonight- not so much in the trap.
About 40 macros of 13 species, together with som micros and geometers I dont ID- yet.
No new species- the best one was a Purple Cloud- Actinotia polyodon
Worn and not so puple as the first one I got in my trap in the beginning of june. I also add a photo of a species that is common in my trap now- but not in UK I guess- Lasionycta proxima
The pheromone trap keep attracting clearwing moths- 6 of the P hylaeiformis in the trap yesturday.
Svein B
About 40 macros of 13 species, together with som micros and geometers I dont ID- yet.
No new species- the best one was a Purple Cloud- Actinotia polyodon
Worn and not so puple as the first one I got in my trap in the beginning of june. I also add a photo of a species that is common in my trap now- but not in UK I guess- Lasionycta proxima
The pheromone trap keep attracting clearwing moths- 6 of the P hylaeiformis in the trap yesturday.
Svein B
