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Old Sunday 26th January 2020, 21:13   #26
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You're very welcome Sir,
Can't figure out how I only got 2 new, should be 4 by my reckoning, can't see any lumps that affect me?
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Check the report on sp and hybrids to see if there are further observations you can resolve?

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Old Monday 27th January 2020, 00:23   #28
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Check the report on sp and hybrids to see if there are further observations you can resolve?

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Yeah, I'd start by visiting "Splits and Lumps" under Special Reports to see what two you *did* get, and then you'll have a better notion what you didn't get, and why (and you may need to resolve some further "spuhs"). If there's anything here that made Scythebill misallocate a split, let me know.

I only got two myself (Whimbrel and Sunda Owlet).
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Yeah, I'd start by visiting "Splits and Lumps" under Special Reports to see what two you *did* get, and then you'll have a better notion what you didn't get, and why (and you may need to resolve some further "spuhs"). If there's anything here that made Scythebill misallocate a split, let me know.

I only got two myself (Whimbrel and Sunda Owlet).
I got a message at start up to say two changes could be resolved and that two couldn't.

The only things to affect my list are the Tern, Whimbrel and Prinias, all of which have been actioned. I did check the IOC page and nothing else should affect me?
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I got a message at start up to say two changes could be resolved and that two couldn't.

The only things to affect my list are the Tern, Whimbrel and Prinias, all of which have been actioned. I did check the IOC page and nothing else should affect me?
Andy, sent you a private message - let's resolve this off the forum. Thanks!
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Yeah, I'd start by visiting "Splits and Lumps" under Special Reports to see what two you *did* get, and then you'll have a better notion what you didn't get, and why (and you may need to resolve some further "spuhs"). If there's anything here that made Scythebill misallocate a split, let me know.

I only got two myself (Whimbrel and Sunda Owlet).
It's not giving me the Whimbrel although it's in bold on my list so it knows I've seen it.
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Old Monday 27th January 2020, 19:01   #32
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NOTICE (JAN 27, 2020) With very mixed feelings but a fulfilling 25 years, I will retire from the IOC World Bird List project effective February 1, 2020. Pamela Rasmussen and David Donsker will continue to manage IOC world bird taxonomy, guided by our advisors and a host of diligent volunteers.

This has been a community project from the beginning, with broad participation by hundreds of academic colleagues and scholarly world birders. I thank all of you for your many contributions, for your encouragement and for your patience.

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Many thanks for you many thousands of hours of work Peter, go and do some birding now!
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Many thanks for you many thousands of hours of work Peter, go and do some birding now!
It's Frank Gill who's retiring, Andy. Peter is just passing on the message! Your message transfers easily to Frank, though, and I not only second your thinking, but also I must say how much I enjoyed Frank's patience and helpfulness with my queries and his quickness to respond (when he wasn't off in some remote location!
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It's Frank Gill who's retiring, Andy. Peter is just passing on the message! Your message transfers easily to Frank, though, and I not only second your thinking, but also I must say how much I enjoyed Frank's patience and helpfulness with my queries and his quickness to respond (when he wasn't off in some remote location!
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NOTICE (JAN 27, 2020) With very mixed feelings but a fulfilling 25 years, I will retire from the IOC World Bird List project effective February 1, 2020. Pamela Rasmussen and David Donsker will continue to manage IOC world bird taxonomy, guided by our advisors and a host of diligent volunteers.

This has been a community project from the beginning, with broad participation by hundreds of academic colleagues and scholarly world birders. I thank all of you for your many contributions, for your encouragement and for your patience.

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The list I downloaded a few days ago contains this recommended citation:

Gill, F and D Donsker (Eds). 2020. IOC World Bird List (v 10.1). doi: 10.14344/IOC.ML.10.1.

Now, the suggested citation in the website (homepage) is this (note the same DOI as above):

Rasmussen P & D Donsker (Eds). 2020. IOC World Bird List (v10.1). doi: 10.14344/IOC.ML.10.1.

Not only that, I noticed also that F. Gill is gone from the copyright notice in the footer (bottom) of the website. Now it reads:

“IOC World Bird List v10.1 by Pamela Rasmussen & David Donsker (Eds) is licensed under….”

I think something is wrong here. If F. Gill worked years in the IOC project, then I think his name shouldn’t vanish even before the date of his effective retirement arrives.

I also think that the citation for the current version (v10.1) should be restored as in the Excel file.

Could someone please forward this comment to the concerned?

Apart from this, I join the others in thanking F. Gill for his great service.

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The list I downloaded a few days ago contains this recommended citation:

Gill, F and D Donsker (Eds). 2020. IOC World Bird List (v 10.1). doi: 10.14344/IOC.ML.10.1.

Now, the suggested citation in the website (homepage) is this (note the same DOI as above):

Rasmussen P & D Donsker (Eds). 2020. IOC World Bird List (v10.1). doi: 10.14344/IOC.ML.10.1.

Not only that, I noticed also that F. Gill is gone from the copyright notice in the footer (bottom) of the website. Now it reads:

“IOC World Bird List v10.1 by Pamela Rasmussen & David Donsker (Eds) is licensed under….”

I think something is wrong here. If F. Gill worked years in the IOC project, then I think his name shouldn’t vanish even before the date of his effective retirement arrives.

I also think that the citation for the current version (v10.1) should be restored as in the Excel file.

Could someone please forward this comment to the concerned?

Apart from this, I join the others in thanking F. Gill for his great service.

Mohamed
Nice thought, Mahamed!
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IOC World Bird List: A Word from Pamela Rasmussen and David Donsker

As you are aware, our dear friend and respected colleague, Frank Gill, has announced that he will be stepping down as a Managing Editor of the IOC World Bird List as of February 1, 2020

Frank has been the heart, mind and soul of this project since its inception a quarter of a century ago. The inspiration, commitment and leadership that he provided to make the IOC World Bird List one of the most consulted and adopted taxonomic resources for the world’s avifauna cannot be overstated. His knowledge and leadership will be sorely missed.

But rest assured that we are committed as much as ever to continue this legacy. We consider it an honor and a great responsibility that Frank has entrusted this project to us. Frank will remain engaged as one of our most respected advisors. We intend to retain, and as opportunity and necessity arise, expand the team that Frank assembled and nurtured to create and maintain this project. We recognize that the IOC World Bird List has been successful largely due to our advisors, who provide it with a global perspective and a high level of expertise.

We also believe that the IOC list is especially valuable due to efficient, yet careful analysis of the content of new taxonomic works; timely semiannual updates; and responsiveness to the advice and queries of knowledgeable and interested correspondents. We will continue to follow those principles and others articulated on the website, and we expect a smooth transition.

We are similarly committed to working closely with the principals associated with the other major world bird lists to further reduce the differences between lists.

With deep thanks and admiration to our retiring colleague, here’s to the bright future of the IOC World Bird List. We are eager to assure its continued success.

As always we welcome constructive input.

Pamela C. Rasmussen and David B. Donsker
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Old Friday 31st January 2020, 01:45   #41
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I as well wish Frank the best and cannot help but laud praise on the tremendous work he has done.

As well I think the future of the IOC list looks bright and I look forward to the continued convergence of world taxonomic lists. I am a great fan of the careful balance of expedient reaction to publications with expert advice and long term accuracy that is achieved by IOC.

Cheers to all involved as well as to all others who are involved in taxonomic committees - none work in a vacuum and all contribute to onward progress!
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