Rare birds dead on Queen's estate (BBC News) (1 Viewer)

BF Newsroom · Oct 25, 2007

An investigation is launched into the deaths of two rare birds of prey on one of the Queen's estates.

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rozinante · Oct 25, 2007

It's lucky that the RSPB have a high ranking member on site then. She will get to the bottom of it soon enough I'm sure.

Or, perhaps not:-

http://tinyurl.com/2f8naf

Capercaillie71 · Oct 25, 2007

It's not the first wildlife crime incident at Sandringham:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/norfolk/6177126.stm

On-Firecrest · Oct 25, 2007

were these passage birds or breeders?
whatever the status of the birds it is such as shocking and senseless crime.

Capercaillie71 · Oct 25, 2007

Nice to see the usual factual accuracy of the BBC:

"Only 15 active nesting sites are thought to exist for the rare hen harrier across the UK"

Barred Wobbler · Oct 25, 2007

Capercaillie71 said:
Nice to see the usual factual accuracy of the BBC:

"Only 15 active nesting sites are thought to exist for the rare hen harrier across the UK"

Yup, from London Berwick and Carlisle are just about on the edge of the planet, beyond there be dragons, and they aren't too sure about the hundred miles or so south of there either.

Vectis Birder · Oct 25, 2007

Alan Seaton said:
Yup, from London Berwick and Carlisle are just about on the edge of the planet, beyond there be dragons, and they aren't too sure about the hundred miles or so south of there either.

I don't think they're too certain about anywhere south of Guildford either.

SueBryan · Oct 25, 2007

I hope the police make a full investigation this time. Our harriers need our protection against these outrages.
Sue

Sandra (Taylor) · Oct 25, 2007

This is a bit of a coincidence isn't it? Wonder if it's the same guy?

Sandra

ikw101 · Oct 25, 2007

One for the serious organised crime squad :t:

Withdraw the gun licences immediately - without exception.

Just for once wouldn't it be nice to see our Royal Family make a stance against the ongoing persecution. Will it happen? .........not a chance.

Peewit · Oct 25, 2007

Hen Harriers shot on Queens Estate

Hello there

I heard this on the Anglian local news at 6pm and repeated at 10pm.

http://www.itvlocal.com/anglia/news/

The article about the Hen Harriers being shot on Queens Estate in Sandringham The item is about a quarter of the way through the videoed news item.

I only hope it is not true. :C

Regards
Kathy.

rozinante · Oct 25, 2007

Peewit said:
Hello there

I heard this on the Anglian local news at 6pm and repeated at 10pm.

http://www.itvlocal.com/anglia/news/

The article about the Hen Harriers being shot on Queens Estate in Sandringham The item is about a quarter of the way through the videoed news item.

I only hope it is not true. :C

Regards
Kathy.

Thanks for the link Kathy.

Have you seen the other thread? :-
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=1036691#post1036691

btw...
Watching other peoples local news is like looking at someone elses holiday snaps.

The clip starts at about 8:08 mins on that link.

Peewit · Oct 25, 2007

rozinante said:
Thanks for the link Kathy.

Have you seen the other thread? :-
http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=1036691#post1036691

btw...
Watching other peoples local news is like looking at someone elses holiday snaps.

The clip starts at about 8:08 mins on that link.

Hi rozinante

I overlooked the other thread, so thanks for keeping me straight here.

Can understand the local news bit, causes confusion with people.

Also the item was not confirmed, I was wondering if it was a good idea to add to BF at all.

Nothing worse than 2 threads the same here, never mind. whoooopps

I also should have added the time zone as you have on the video clip

Regards
Kathy.

Peewit · Oct 26, 2007

ikw101 said:
One for the serious organised crime squad :t:

Withdraw the gun licences immediately - without exception.

Just for once wouldn't it be nice to see our Royal Family make a stance against the ongoing persecution. Will it happen? .........not a chance.

Hi Ikw

I think guns need to be removed all together too, so much the better. I cannot see a stance in persecution either as to hunting too embroiled in family history.

I have looked at a film clips of the allegations on the local Anglian news tonight, and the Royals sure have a history of hunting wildlife to this day.

The film clips on the internet speak volumes on what goes on behind closed doors.

Why should the Royals be so different to anyone else. They should respect wildlife as anyone else would if they had half a heart to do so.

Or are they just heartless anyway. :-C

Regards
Kathy

Isurus · Oct 26, 2007

Peewit said:
Hi Ikw

I think guns need to be removed all together too, so much the better. I cannot see a stance in persecution either as to hunting too embroiled in family history.

I have looked at a film clips of the allegations on the local Anglian news tonight, and the Royals sure have a history of hunting wildlife to this day.

Firstly details on this seem to be pretty sketchy and secondly there's a big difference between partaking in legal (and socially accepted) hunting of certain species and tacitly sponsoring/condoning the illegal killing of an endangered species. Lets perhaps acknowledge that at least one of the hunting royals we're talking about was named by Time as a worldwide environmental hero this week and perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt that if a) this was done by one of their staff then b) he'll end up being punished to the full extent of the law and then fired by his bosses.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that eh?

Peewit · Oct 26, 2007

Isurus said:
Firstly details on this seem to be pretty sketchy and secondly there's a big difference between partaking in legal (and socially accepted) hunting of certain species and tacitly sponsoring/condoning the illegal killing of an endangered species. Lets perhaps acknowledge that at least one of the hunting royals we're talking about was named by Time as a worldwide environmental hero this week and perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt that if a) this was done by one of their staff then b) he'll end up being punished to the full extent of the law and then fired by his bosses.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that eh?

Hi Isurus

I do state what was said was maybe too close to the bone here. I have been looking at the fox video on the local news tonight (to go along with tonights news about the Harriers) It showed a clip of a film of a fox being shot and prodded, by so called members of the Royal Family and their dogs I found it disturbing. :C

Yet, that is what the news does it over emphases an issue so it is believable to the viewer. We are given a one sided view of issues, and we never know what is going on really in some cases.

I could see it being one of the staff here too. It has happened before. I hope that the Harriers are alright, and even if there a threat of it to happen that the perpetrator is caught as he should be.

Maybe the staff members think that they are untouchable, and are well hidden from the world too, because they are part and parcel living with the Royals in the first place.

Yes, it is innocent until proven guilty.

Want to hear the outcome of this. I think it will be interesting :eek!:

Regards
Kathy

Farnboro John · Oct 26, 2007

Alan Seaton said:
Yup, from London Berwick and Carlisle are just about on the edge of the planet, beyond there be dragons, and they aren't too sure about the hundred miles or so south of there either.

Have you got any site info for the dragons, I need all species!

John

Farnboro John · Oct 26, 2007

Isurus said:
Firstly details on this seem to be pretty sketchy and secondly there's a big difference between partaking in legal (and socially accepted) hunting of certain species and tacitly sponsoring/condoning the illegal killing of an endangered species. Lets perhaps acknowledge that at least one of the hunting royals we're talking about was named by Time as a worldwide environmental hero this week and perhaps give them the benefit of the doubt that if a) this was done by one of their staff then b) he'll end up being punished to the full extent of the law and then fired by his bosses.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that eh?

Agreed. But perhaps we could also agree that if (and only if) the verdict is guilty and there is no sacking, then RSPB should make a big media splash of handing back their royal charter and booting out their royal connections?

John

Osprey_watcher · Oct 26, 2007

Farnboro John said:
Have you got any site info for the dragons, I need all species!

John

Wardle, Lancs.
She was sat on the sofa watching GMTV and breathing fire when I left for work this morning.

Peewit · Oct 26, 2007

Osprey_watcher said:
Wardle, Lancs.
She was sat on the sofa watching GMTV and breathing fire when I left for work this morning.

Hi Eddie

Your name is not George is it, as in George the Dragon :frog:

Regards
Kathy

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