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Old Monday 14th May 2018, 18:37   #26
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Judging by the new OSME checklist booklet the authors have proposed/made quite a few splits eg Menetrie's Warbler becomes Eastern and Western and 'Basalt Wheatear' becomes a species.
Maybe that will sell a few more copies.

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not high on my list anyway
Judging from the sample pages I guess it might become the bird book of the year.
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According to Bloomsbury it seems that it is now postponed to September

https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/handbo...9780713645712/
Your link is to the US page, their UK page still has it for July, perhaps printing / production issues in the US or simply being done in Europe first?

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Judging from the sample pages I guess it might become the bird book of the year.
Sure. But which year?
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With more bird books cluttering up my house than is either financially or functionally sensible and with a good % of the content of these books probably available elsewhere, it would be a ludicrous, unnecessary and unjustifiable extravagance to buy them. Which means, of course, that I've just ordered it ....
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With more bird books cluttering up my house than is either financially or functionally sensible and with a good % of the content of these books probably available elsewhere, it would be a ludicrous, unnecessary and unjustifiable extravagance to buy them. Which means, of course, that I've just ordered it ....
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Same here. Pretty much a "déja vue" feeling, reminding me of the many similarly looking books on my bookshelves that I must have looked at just a few times when I bought them, but never since. Of course, these new books are up to date, have better photos etc etc. But the pertinent (to me) info is already available.

But then, to each his own. We all have our personal priorities.
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I have been waiting for this some 15 years. Well, I can understand why somebody do not want to have this book - if they are not interested in birds, or WP birds, or reading books generally, but want to spend that time to something more useful and interesting action (I don't know what it could be, but possibly there are some). I am excepting something that really is not available "elsewhere".

But, of course, I have not seen the book yet. It is possible that that I will be disappointed.
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In 1999, Svensson published the most popular bird guide in Europe (Collins Bird Guide). I am rather sure that his new book will have a similar success.
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In 1999, Svensson published the most popular bird guide in Europe (Collins Bird Guide). I am rather sure that his new book will have a similar success.
That wasn't a photo guide and at the time, it was undoubtedly the best book up to that point.



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I have been waiting for this some 15 years. Well, I can understand why somebody do not want to have this book - if they are not interested in birds, or WP birds, or reading books generally, but want to spend that time to something more useful and interesting action (I don't know what it could be, but possibly there are some). I am excepting something that really is not available "elsewhere".

But, of course, I have not seen the book yet. It is possible that that I will be disappointed.
I'll wait and see reviews, not from the publishers or book sellers but from those that buy it, I hope you're not disappointed. As others have said, it's hard to imagine that anything, other than the odd split, is not already available in the many, modern titles, it would be one thing if it were cheap but it's not. Add to this and I've mentioned it elsewhere, some people and I'm one, just can't get the hots for photo guides.

The suggestion that not buying this book, indicates not having an interest in birds is franky ridiculous, anyone who's familiar with me will know, that I usually need very little excuse to buy a book. There are some great titles coming out this year but I'm not ready to buy this just because the publisher says I should. If the people who's reviews I respect give it a 'WOW, this is a must have' then I'll reconsider but there are other titles I'm anticipating with more excitement.

Here are just a few of my books, not shown are my collection of New Naturalists or shelves full of periodicals, African Bird club, Birding World, Oriental Bird club etc etc and I'm still a rubbish birder....


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Looks like a nice book

Would be great if the digital version came free with the book
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Looks like a nice book

Would be great if the digital version came free with the book
You'll be lucky, you can hope.


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i am afraid that the info in the book will be a little outdated.
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i am afraid that the info in the book will be a little outdated.
Many books are, I think that at the pace taxonomy is moving these days, it's almost inevitable.



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Which one’s Andy?
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Antpittas (Jul), African Raptors (Clarke Aug), Birds of Japan (Brazil,Jun) as well as three New Naturalist titles and an Eagle Owl monograph from Poyser.

There's also a new British Ladybird guide due in Nov.




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I'll reconsider but there are other titles I'm anticipating with more excitement.

Here are just a few of my books, not shown are my collection of New Naturalists or shelves full of periodicals, African Bird club, Birding World, Oriental Bird club etc etc and I'm still a rubbish birder....


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Great bookshelf. Every library might be envious. HWPB has high priority on my bird book list. But highest priority in general has HMW 8.
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HPWB is still set for July according to Bloomsbury's UK site rather than the September on their US site

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According to Bloomsbury it seems that it is now postponed to September

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This is incorrect I'm afraid. It is definitely publishing 26th September.

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This is incorrect I'm afraid. It is definitely publishing 26th September.

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This is incorrect I'm afraid. It is definitely publishing 26th September.

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I'm confused now. Should this say 'this is correct' and it is publishing in September not July.
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I'm confused now. Should this say 'this is correct' and it is publishing in September not July.
The UK and US sites have different dates, which is correct Jim?




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I assume Jim meant to type July
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