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Blaser/Minox USA doesn't know squat about Minox (1 Viewer)

Nixterdemus

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I bought a bin then noted it went through several model changes. I called up Blaser/Minox USA and they whined about only being in charge of Minox sports optics for six months. They know nothing, nada, zip, doodly-squat.

They advise me to contact Minox directly via e-mail. [[email protected]] I did last week, still waiting on a response. I figured I'd throw Blaser an underhanded pitch. I call today after receiving the bins asking about date of manufacture by serial number.

On the phone some guy tells me to e-mail them the information. Then they will contact Minox for the date. Never mind that Minox requires the original owner to file warranty within 30 days or you're toast on any claims.

We'll see as the clock is ticking though Blaser/Minox sports optics customer service instills little customer confidence in me.

ETA: I spoke w/pleasant young lady last week, but as mentioned she knew nothing. I call Blazer Monday morn, ask to speak to Minox sports optics, I'm transferred back to her though all I obtain is the answering machine. I call back later in the morning w/same request, yet I'm informed by the lady at the main desk/receptionist that she is in a meeting; would I care to leave a name, number, yada, yada, yada. I declined asking for the young lady in customer service e-mail; hoping for a more direct line of communication. Naturally, I received what I perceive to be the generic link [[email protected]].

I send an e-mail though experience tells me to call back later anyway. This time a guy answers the main Blaser line. Again I ask to be transferred to Minox sports optics. He asks me what I want. What I want? WTF is some clodhopper from Blaser answering the main phone asking me what I want when he isn't the Minox Sports Optics department?

I tell him I want the manufacturing date of me bin via serial number. He tells me they do not have that information and I should e-mail Blaser the inquiry. [It goes not unnoted that I'm talking to them at the moment.] Then, upon receipt of such e-mail Blaser will contact Minox for the information. I remind this gent, per Minox policy, that as the original owner I have only thirty days to register for warranty to validate potential claims over the next thirty years.

I tell him I should be able to secure this basic information before needing to register. He begins attempt to wax philosophically, "In a perfect world", but I cut him short telling him in an imperfect world I still should be able to receive that information prior to registration deadline. I find it somewhat odd that the main phone line to Blaser apparently is running interference/screening calls to Minox Sports Optics. Regardless, more concerning to me is the lack of basic information by Blaser on Minox binoculars that could be stored on a thumb drive.

I will keep you informed on any/all responses from Minox or Blaser acting as agent of Minox in the states.
 
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I bought a bin then noted it went through several model changes. I called up Blaser/Minox USA and they whined about only being in charge of Minox sports optics for six months. They know nothing, nada, zip, doodly-squat.

They advise me to contact Minox directly via e-mail. [[email protected]] I did last week, still waiting on a response. I figured I'd throw Blaser an underhanded pitch. I call today after receiving the bins asking about date of manufacture by serial number.

On the phone some guy tells me to e-mail them the information. Then they will contact Minox for the date. Never mind that Minox requires the original owner to file warranty within 30 days or you're toast on any claims.

We'll see as the clock is ticking though Blaser/Minox sports optics customer service instills little customer confidence in me.

ETA: I spoke w/pleasant young lady last week, but as mentioned she knew nothing. I call Blazer Monday morn, ask to speak to Minox sports optics, I'm transferred back to her though all I obtain is the answering machine. I call back later in the morning w/same request, yet I'm informed by the lady at the main desk/receptionist that she is in a meeting; would I care to leave a name, number, yada, yada, yada. I declined asking for the young lady in customer service e-mail; hoping for a more direct line of communication. Naturally, I received what I perceive to be the generic link [[email protected]].

I send an e-mail though experience tells me to call back later anyway. This time a guy answers the main Blaser line. Again I ask to be transferred to Minox sports optics. He asks me what I want. What I want? WTF is some clodhopper from Blaser answering the main phone asking me what I want when he isn't the Minox Sports Optics department?

I tell him I want the manufacturing date of me bin via serial number. He tells me they do not have that information and I should e-mail Blaser the inquiry. [It goes not unnoted that I'm talking to them at the moment.] Then, upon receipt of such e-mail Blaser will contact Minox for the information. I remind this gent, per Minox policy, that as the original owner I have only thirty days to register for warranty to validate potential claims over the next thirty years.

I tell him I should be able to secure this basic information before needing to register. He begins attempt to wax philosophically, "In a perfect world", but I cut him short telling him in an imperfect world I still should be able to receive that information prior to registration deadline. I find it somewhat odd that the main phone line to Blaser apparently is running interference/screening calls to Minox Sports Optics. Regardless, more concerning to me is the lack of basic information by Blaser on Minox binoculars that could be stored on a thumb drive.

I will keep you informed on any/all responses from Minox or Blaser acting as agent of Minox in the states.

Nix,

Next time buy from a shop and live ten years longer;)

Jan

PS

In a perfect world good advice is for free.
 
Hear, here blokes, but being a fool for a deal, HG8.5X52BR <650USD TTD, verily I could not say nay.

Ne'ertheless, the deal does not condone slipshod execution of duty.

I raise a glass und toast unto your concern for me health. Salute!
 
Hear, here blokes, but being a fool for a deal, HG8.5X52BR <650USD TTD, verily I could not say nay.

Ne'ertheless, the deal does not condone slipshod execution of duty.

I raise a glass und toast unto your concern for me health. Salute!

Nix,

What if the Minox rep you had on the phone would have told you that the bin was manufactured fourteen months ago, was kept four months in stock and delivered to the final sales channel in the fifth month.
Would you have praised him/her here on BF?

If you live ten years shorter, blame it on the honesty of that sales rep:-C

Don't forget, we are only talking about a bin and probably that poor rep is glad to know the difference between some models.

Age?? WTF and now they want to know the age. Please, I only know the brand for six months.
Just a day at the office at Minox.

Jan
 
Interesting take Jan. As a rule posting on the internet, including reviews, is done in greater volume by customer w/complaint. Purchasing the product is my endorsement.

The gent from which I purchased the bin, when asked, admitted to bin being in inventory at least for two years. The bin within at least the last eight years has been represented by three model numbers. W/little to no information available as to what changes occurred.

Anything regarding Minox or Blaser/Minox e-mail response to me will be posted here.

I'm not quite sure of your affinity to embrace 10 years of me life on way or the other. Smacks of a distraction technique in which you continue to return.

The first rep blames Blaser for lack of on the job experience, only six months, whilst the second mulls potential of fantasy.

Yes, age as it is fairly common knowledge that some companies apply an advanced coating to lenses over time. Which I tend to believe you would agree is a component of age.

As previously stated, I paraphrase meself, every model of anything ever manufactured by or for Minox could easily be dated via SN and kept on a thumbdrive. This isn't some proprietary coating/lens company secret.

Perhaps you could be of some use Jan explaining why an agent of Minox would have to contact Minox headquarters for the date of manufacture of a specific bin. Is there one individual w/combination to the vault of Minox serial numbers? Is that person required to have a security clearance? Is that person escorted by a guard? If so, is that guard armed?

I see an image of an elderly bespectacled gent pouring over a multitude of 3X5 index cards contained within an auld library Dewey decimal system cabinet; each card exclusively containing information on one bin.

Little wonder the results take so long to tally. Might I suggest a series of Rolodex to expedite requests?
 
Nix,

This problem with the numerous and very confusing changes in the names and/or designations of Minox's binoculars goes back many years and it is probably not resolvable now considering the changes in management that occurred there over the years.

Finding out the code used to determine the date of their manufacture is probably impossible unless you can find a former employee of the firm who has the key to it.

You can get a pretty good list of the name changes for some of the Binoculars Minox made during that time from Allbinos but you won't be able to find out anything about their coatings or the dates they were made. You will find that a lot of them are very similar in size, appearance and construction.

Here is a list of 58 Minox binoculars with their pictures and specs from Allbinos. There are only 9 individual reviews in that group:

https://www.allbinos.com/20-Minox-binoculars.html

The list begins with the newest ones although you can switch to make the list alphabetical. Unfortunately no dates are given.

Good Luck!

Bob

PS: I own one Minox binocular. It is a BD 10x32 BR ASPH (for aspheric). Its SN is 3100330. I purchased it in 2007 from Camera Land. The literature that came with it is dated 08/03.

If I were to make a guess about aging it from its SN, I would guess that the Minox code for this 10x32 binocular is as follows: 31 means it is a 10x32 and the number (330) following it means that it was the 330th one made. (Doug at Camera Land stated here some time ago that 10x32 binoculars are by far the least popular format when it comes to sales which explains the low number of 330.)

You can find a personal review of the 8x32 version in the Allbinos list above dated 2014 by an Australian who owned his for 10 years so that means this binocular goes back at least to 2004. The 8x32 and 10x32 are 16th and 17th from the bottom of the Allbinos list.
 
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Jan, Thank you sir for sharing your experiences along w/taking precious time out of your schedule in providing pertinent information. Me, dating the bin whilst not crucial is somewhat of a passion. I suppose being spoiled by the likes of Zeiss & Nikon I've set meself up for disappointment. Hopefully I'll live. At least another ten years, eh? ;)

In going to the warranty website, for the States, I was pleasantly surprised in discovering the warranty was transferable one time w/remaining warranty. As for the bin I feel it is a mite long in the tooth at an inflated asking price.

Not overly bright w/modest FOV combined w/mild CA when approaching the sun. Though well built, light w/in focus view virtually to the edge and, w/me medium hands/stubby fingers, a pleasure to hold. I do enjoy the trumpet shape combined w/large objectives.

A step above, perhaps 1.5, the discontinued Vortex Viper MIJ 8.5X50 that weighs a hair less, has 15' less FOV, at least mine does, though oddly enough incorporates the same right tube diopter pull/adjust/push/lock ring as the Minox except it's plastic. The Viper shows similar CA in center & edge though smaller sweet spot. They could be half brothers.

The price I paid for the Viper Vs. Minox does make it competitive in that aspect. I consider the Minox in the same category as the Conquest 10x40 valuewise. They each have their own strengths/weaknesses that play out depending upon needs/wants. Main difference for me is that the 10x40 was upgraded to the 10X42 leaving the Minox in need of an upgrade. At least at current price.

Thanks again for sharing your expertise/time.

ETA: I've little doubt me bin is within 8 years. Yours is the seven digit SN whilst mine is an eight. Me main curiousity stems from discovering difference twixt post-MIJ model 62159 & current, for however long, 62191. MIJ focus wheel had 'ASPHERIC LENS TECHNOLOGY' 62191 has 'MADE IN GERMANY' I'm not sure what the middle model 62159 had inscribed.

Mine is supposed to be a 62191, maybe due to the 8 digit SN, HG8.5X52BR-41001819
Perhaps the first two numbers are the year. Mine would/could be 10 years later at 2013. Maybe not though that would fit w/salesman stating these had been in inventory for at least two years.

ETA II: Going over the models from allbinos link I find clues.

Minox HG 8.5x52 BR MIG 5.8* 775gm [should be MIG 62191]
Minox HG BD 8.5x52 BR asph. 5.5* 795 gm [the missing link 62184?] or being an HG was this MIJ 62159?
Minox BD 8.5x52 BR asph 5.5* 980gm [MIJ? 62159?] or being a BD was this 62184?
 
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Nix
if you find anything out let us know.....I have a HG 10x43 62190...along with other Minox bins and have not been able to find out anything about dating them much less optical changes within each model designation....
 
Nix,
I understand rom your posts that the main reasons for wanting to know the production date of your binocular is the yes/no presence of the best coatings. There is a very good remedy against the frustrations you describe: investigate the binocular or have it investigated by somebody who knows what he/she is doing and you can sleep again.
Gijs van Ginkel
 
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