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Nightjar ID - Kruger Park, South Africa

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Old Thursday 20th February 2020, 18:32   #1
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Nightjar ID - Kruger Park, South Africa

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This nightjar was photographed on a night drive from Punda Maria camp in northern Kruger national park.

The guide said she thought it was a fiery necked nightjar, but wasn't 100% sure.

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Old Thursday 20th February 2020, 18:56   #2
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Not Fiery-necked with that tail, looks like it's down to either a female European or Freckled?
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Not Fiery-necked with that tail, looks like it's down to either a female European or Freckled?
Square-tailed Nightjar i think.
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Square-tailed Nightjar i think.
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You'd see the pale or white edge to the outer tail feather?
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You'd see the pale or white edge to the outer tail feather?
Hidden by the central rectrices.
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Hidden by the central rectrices.
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how many tail feathers does a Nightar have?

I'm sure that in most cases, you'd see the outer tail as here

https://twitter.com/Ben909/status/1096845864818147329

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https://africanbirdclub.org/afbid/se...cies/852/35731
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how many tail feathers does a Nightar have?

I'm sure that in most cases, you'd see the outer tail as here

https://twitter.com/Ben909/status/1096845864818147329

and here

https://africanbirdclub.org/afbid/se...cies/852/35731
Above all, I notice that the plumage is in poor condition, moulting.
The primaries are very worn out.
One can imagine that some tail feathers are absent or growing.
In any case, it happens, i think, between fossii and pectoralis.
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I find Nightjar ID threads fascinating and daunting in equal measure! With the caveat that I bring recently acquired book knowledge only, there are a couple of questions with posing.

Is that a pale outer web running down the side of the tail?

Are those whitish tips to the secondaries?

And if they are, does that strengthen the case for fossii?

(Sits back in trepidation!)
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I find Nightjar ID threads fascinating and daunting in equal measure! With the caveat that I bring recently acquired book knowledge only, there are a couple of questions with posing.

Is that a pale outer web running down the side of the tail?

Are those whitish tips to the secondaries?

And if they are, does that strengthen the case for fossii?

(Sits back in trepidation!)
This could be a good sign but is it just artefact? I'd expect it to be far more obvious unless as you say, those feathers are missing.
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[quote=andyadcock;3961280]how many tail feathers does a Nightar have?


In answer to my own question, I can see ten here, not sure if that's a standard across all species?

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig1_337923811
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Thanks guys for your efforts, much appreciated.
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