Join for FREE
It only takes a minute!
More discoveries. NEW: Zeiss Victory SF 32

Welcome to BirdForum.
BirdForum is the net's largest birding community, dedicated to wild birds and birding, and is absolutely FREE! You are most welcome to register for an account, which allows you to take part in lively discussions in the forum, post your pictures in the gallery and more.

Gill and Wright, Recommended English Names

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old Monday 28th August 2006, 21:38   #1
Rick Wright, Tucson
Registered User
 
Rick Wright, Tucson's Avatar

 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bloomfield, NJ
Posts: 310
Gill and Wright, Recommended English Names

A biref, informal review of Gill and Wright, Birds of the World: Recommended English Names, is available at

http://birdaz.com/blog/category/book-reviews/

Rick Wright
Tucson
__________________
Rick Wright
Vancouver and Tucson
Rick Wright, Tucson is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 29th August 2006, 18:35   #2
cuckooroller
Registered User
 
cuckooroller's Avatar

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Amelia, Italy
Posts: 4,919
Thanks Rick,
My initial reaction is probably rather infantile. I ask myself that with our (translate humankind) inability to resolve differences in philosophy regarding the most correct view on avian speciation (BSC-PSC) that would have to be resolved to even contemplate finally arriving to redact a "One List" for taxonomy, then how would other contemplated upheavals, this time in Nomenclature, be received. So for me, destined to remain a dead letter unless there is a universal acceptance that the suggestions proposed in this volume should be implemented in the existing world bird lists (e.g., Clements, Howard & Moore, etc.).
__________________
________________
Steve Pryor
Oriental Bird Club
Neotropical Bird Club
cuckooroller is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 29th August 2006, 18:52   #3
Rick Wright, Tucson
Registered User
 
Rick Wright, Tucson's Avatar

 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Bloomfield, NJ
Posts: 310
The Impossible Dream

Steve,
You're quite right, alas: any pretense to nomenclatural stability will fall before the realities of taxonomic instability. I wondered as I read the book whether it might not have made better sense to spend the time formulating a clearer set of principles for the naming of new taxa as they are recognized, making the generation of actual names an ad hoc process governed by those principles.
It will be interesting, though, to see which if any of the nomina nova are incorporated into subsequent regional lists, and whether "worldbirders" abandon Clements and defect to Gill and Wright.
Rick Wright
Tucson.
__________________
Rick Wright
Vancouver and Tucson
Rick Wright, Tucson is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Tuesday 29th August 2006, 19:10   #4
cuckooroller
Registered User
 
cuckooroller's Avatar

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Amelia, Italy
Posts: 4,919
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick Wright
Steve,
You're quite right, alas: any pretense to nomenclatural stability will fall before the realities of taxonomic instability. I wondered as I read the book whether it might not have made better sense to spend the time formulating a clearer set of principles for the naming of new taxa as they are recognized, making the generation of actual names an ad hoc process governed by those principles.
It will be interesting, though, to see which if any of the nomina nova are incorporated into subsequent regional lists, and whether "worldbirders" abandon Clements and defect to Gill and Wright.
Rick Wright
Tucson.
Rick,
I don't think I would be placing any money on anyone abandoning the two remaining world lists especially in light of their new upcoming new editions. I spoke of these editions also here: http://www.sahotspots.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?t=748

Scroll down to last posting - same moniker.
__________________
________________
Steve Pryor
Oriental Bird Club
Neotropical Bird Club
cuckooroller is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Thursday 31st August 2006, 13:35   #5
Charles Harper
Régisseur
 
Charles Harper's Avatar

 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Yokohama, Japan
Posts: 2,313
.
It should make a good cross-reference, at least, for tracking one species from field guide to field guide. And obviously it is a Quixotic quest. The question is, should I order one, or are the namings just too far off-the-wall overall?
.
__________________
... al with-oute, the mewe is peynted grene, In which were peynted alle thise false foules, As beth thise tidifs, tercelets, and oules,... and pyes....
Kantorilode: Birds of Japan
.
Charles Harper is offline  
Reply With Quote

BF Supporter 2004 Support BirdForum With A Donation

Advertisement
Reply


Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

{googleads}

Fatbirder's Top 1000 Birding Websites

Help support BirdForum

Page generated in 0.19576693 seconds with 18 queries
All times are GMT. The time now is 14:41.