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kitten for ID please (1 Viewer)
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Jasonbirder
Jason-occasional-twitcher
Not got my book to hand...(sorry!) so I can`t put a name to it but I think its one of the "other two" Kittens - I had my first Sallow Kitten last night and the defining ID character was that the dark central band was essentially uniform in width with a slightly scalloped trailing edge - whereas the "other two" have a sort of "scoop" out of the dark central band meaning they taper in width....
Wow! so helpful eh! Sorry
A bit of an improvement - probably a Poplar Kitten - for reasoning see above
Wow! so helpful eh! Sorry
A bit of an improvement - probably a Poplar Kitten - for reasoning see above
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Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Thanks, Jason,
It's certainly not an alder kitten, which I've had--and it's the wrong time of the year. Remain to be convinced re poplar, though--in fact, I'm leaning more towards sallow, looking at Skinner, "Poplar ...the outer margin of the central band of the forewing does not angle towards costa and is not dentate." But the thickness of the dark band is worrying me!
Ken
It's certainly not an alder kitten, which I've had--and it's the wrong time of the year. Remain to be convinced re poplar, though--in fact, I'm leaning more towards sallow, looking at Skinner, "Poplar ...the outer margin of the central band of the forewing does not angle towards costa and is not dentate." But the thickness of the dark band is worrying me!
Ken
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Jasonbirder
Jason-occasional-twitcher
Sorry about that Ken - was working from memory - but worthwhile for me as I need to check out the Kitten I had last night - If yours is Sallow then mine wasn`t 
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Interested to hear you were having kittens earlier in the year, Brianbrianhstone said:
Not easy are they! I'd put the first down as sallow, on the basis of the dentated rear edge to the central stripe... and the second, looks more poplar-like......... but let's see what the experts think!
Ken
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Jasonbirder
Jason-occasional-twitcher
Don`t ask me - I was wrong with the last one
MikeWall
HantsMoth-er
Surreybirder said:Interested to hear you were having kittens earlier in the year, Brian
Not easy are they! I'd put the first down as sallow, on the basis of the dentated rear edge to the central stripe... and the second, looks more poplar-like......... but let's see what the experts think!
Ken
I'd say all three were Sallow, with a slight caveat on Brian's second which might, just might, be a Poplar. Depends on size as well- was this bigger than the first (lefthand)one?
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Haven't got the sizes to hand but the one on the right went down as Poplar and the one on the left as Sallow. I have had niggles about this since looking at the photos but I would have studied them carefully and taken size into consideration at the time.
Brian Stone
A Stone chatting
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
I wish my photos were that good... save me a lot of ID probs!brianhstone said:
I'm heading more towards sallow now... you can see slight dentations and the hind-edge of the central stripe seems more angled than shown by Skinner... but I'm open to correction
Ken
