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Old Saturday 11th January 2020, 15:40   #1
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Florida, hawk, martin

Hello!

Please help me identify these two birds, photographed in July at Lake Apopka
1. Red-shouldered Hawk?
2-3 Which martin?
Thanks!
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Old Saturday 11th January 2020, 16:07   #2
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1. Red-shouldered is correct
2. Looks like a Barn Swallow with the deeply-notched tail
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Old Saturday 11th January 2020, 16:18   #3
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Hawk ID

Mostly I look at the lines along the belly of the Red-shouldered hawk for ID while it is perching.

A view of the back of the tail also helps with a distinct ID

When in flight ID is different. The wings tend to be a bit forward.

Finally, woodlands are a preferred habitat, and often it's easy to spot one perching on a tree branch.

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Mostly I look at the lines along the belly of the Red-shouldered hawk for ID while it is perching.

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Yes, but Cooper's and Sharp-shins have similar belly patterns. The distinctive black and white checkered pattern on the wings in combination with the orange barred breast and the tail pattern (thin white bands and thick black bands) distinguish Red-shouldereds from those two Accipiters and most (all?) other North American hawks.

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Red-shouldered Hawk and Barn Swallow. I agree with The Bird Nuts vis a vis Cooper's and Sharp-shinned Hawks.
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Thank you, really appreciate the comments on the Red-shouldered!
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