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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 06:51   #1
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ID,Cairo,Egypt.

small birds in wadi degla, big one in ain sokhna
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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 06:59   #2
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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 09:39   #3
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Suggesting.....Reef Egret, Basalt Wheatear(a long shot), Rock Martin, Dunno?, Willow Warbler and an almost Summer plumaged male Collared Flycatcher?
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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 10:00   #4
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Not sure vabout the Egret but the rest are,
2&3 White Crowned Wheatear.
4&5 Rock Martin.
6, Spotted Flycatcher.
7, Wood Warbler.
8, Collared Flycatcher.
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agree on white-crowned wheater, 1st-year
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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 10:48   #6
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I might be wrong!... but I feel that No.7 although looking very bright! is too attenuated, ie long tailed, with pp being 'just' short of tertial length for Wood Warbler(normally the opposite) A 'front on shot' would have been more yielding!
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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 12:08   #7
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i also instantly thought wood warbler for 7 but tail projection is too long. wings in wood warbler are so long that tail appears really short so ken might be right with willow w.
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I've been umming and ahing over it too Lou. It does look a little long-tailed, but then again it also looks very dark tertialled. I don't like that yellow on the underside either (for Wood) and the bill looks a bit dark. But overall it really gives a Wood Warbler impression. I had a look to see if I could see a 1st primary which would have ruled wood out, but I can't. Might get forensic on it later
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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 13:16   #9
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I might be wrong!... but I feel that No.7 although looking very bright! is too attenuated, ie long tailed, with pp being 'just' short of tertial length for Wood Warbler(normally the opposite) A 'front on shot' would have been more yielding!
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i also instantly thought wood warbler for 7 but tail projection is too long. wings in wood warbler are so long that tail appears really short so ken might be right with willow w.
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I've been umming and ahing over it too Lou. It does look a little long-tailed, but then again it also looks very dark tertialled. I don't like that yellow on the underside either (for Wood) and the bill looks a bit dark. But overall it really gives a Wood Warbler impression. I had a look to see if I could see a 1st primary which would have ruled wood out, but I can't. Might get forensic on it later

another pics for the same bird. should get you decided whether a wood warbler or not
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Surely nr i is a Reef, look at the bill shape.

As for the Wood Warbler, note exeptional long primary projection together with overall impression.

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Surely nr i is a Reef, look at the bill shape.
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OMG mosman these shots are marvelous, i never knew such beauties are right across the red sea, i am jumping in the first plane to cairo, just kidding.

you should really consider posting them in the gallery very few posts form Egypt.
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Old Sunday 12th December 2010, 15:29   #14
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OMG mosman these shots are marvelous, i never knew such beauties are right across the red sea, i am jumping in the first plane to cairo, just kidding.

you should really consider posting them in the gallery very few posts form Egypt.

thank you ammadoux, much appreciated. Will post them in the gallery.
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I think No 2 shot (3rd set) certainly clinches it as a Wood Warbler!....showing an almost short-tailed appearance relative to pp. Mosman1...wish you'd shown that image 1st!

ps Superb shots!....keep 'em comin'
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Not sure vabout the Egret but the rest are,
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4&5 Rock Martin.
6, Spotted Flycatcher.
7, Wood Warbler.
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Might I suggest Pale Crag Martin Ptyonoprogne (fuligula) obsoleta, if regarded as a splt from African Rock Martin P.(f.) fuligula?

Because there is no (post-split) accredited record of the latter in Egypt, we wouldn't want Mosman1 to start filling in a formal rarity report this early! It could dampen his enthusiasm!

For the record, I think it likely that P.(f.) fuligula has reached Egypt, but probably near the border with Sudan near the Nile.
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another pics for the same bird. should get you decided whether a wood warbler or not
Indeed - no doubt now!
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I think No 2 shot (3rd set) certainly clinches it as a Wood Warbler!....showing an almost short-tailed appearance relative to pp. Mosman1...wish you'd shown that image 1st!

ps Superb shots!....keep 'em comin'

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Might I suggest Pale Crag Martin Ptyonoprogne (fuligula) obsoleta, if regarded as a splt from African Rock Martin P.(f.) fuligula?

Because there is no (post-split) accredited record of the latter in Egypt, we wouldn't want Mosman1 to start filling in a formal rarity report this early! It could dampen his enthusiasm!

For the record, I think it likely that P.(f.) fuligula has reached Egypt, but probably near the border with Sudan near the Nile.
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lol,hopefully nothing gonna dampen my enthusiasm,



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Might I suggest Pale Crag Martin Ptyonoprogne (fuligula) obsoleta, if regarded as a splt from African Rock Martin P.(f.) fuligula?

Because there is no (post-split) accredited record of the latter in Egypt, we wouldn't want Mosman1 to start filling in a formal rarity report this early! It could dampen his enthusiasm!

For the record, I think it likely that P.(f.) fuligula has reached Egypt, but probably near the border with Sudan near the Nile.
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Nice pictures! Pre-split fuligula = post-split obsoleta, unless a rarity report to the contrary has been accepted in Israel? I'd be glad to stand corrected!
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absolutely wood warbler now. strange that in a side view tail can appear so much projecting!
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absolutely wood warbler now. strange that in a side view tail can appear so much projecting!
Hi Lou,

I think that with the angel & the fact the primaries are crossed in that 1st pic it gives the impression of shorter wings & a longer tail. Amazing how different a bird can look in several images.
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